"DRIFT TRUCK" Im gonna Do It!!! Goods and Bads?

To continue..

I already said that weight distribution didn't really matter earlier in this thread. I already explained that this project is supposed to be funny at the beginning of this thread as well, and that you can drift anything as long as you can drive.

PAY ATTENTION if you're gonna talk sh!t! We also thought that the truck would be just fine without going Mid-engine!!

And yes I do do all the work on my car, no that's not the original front end, I've been a mechanic for about 10 years now, like my father before me, and yes now I work at a shop.

And yes I might get carpal tunnel syndrome from posting on this board, since I'll probably get it anyways from turning wrenches and busting my kuckles for so long.

I am against posting crap on these boards. But this isn't a newbie looking for advice on what car he wants to get to start drifting!! This is someone who already drifts, and thought this would be a fun project. Mellow out before you go tearin kids heads off, they might be someone with more actual experience than you. You never know. Besides, you're a truck guy on 31's aren't you too busy running us over to drift?

And I didn't catch one reference to a hardbody as a hardtop, so relax on that sh!t too.

Peace.

[Bows to Mr. Anlet]
Wow, I thought I was a big thinker, you're design is Off-The-Chain!! Good sh!t!!


crusTE72corolla- Dude, have you read the posts to this thread?? WTF is your problem?? You talk about baja rally driving in your pick up, which sure it's drifting, but what does your corolla look like?? this is what I drift:

[turbomigo]

Damn man i wish i got this attention when i talked about my amigo im building. Well most of this being hard to drift a truck on leafs is crap i drift my daily a 96 mazda B3000 lowered with koni shocks . But changing over to a linked rear is the ticket,weight dis. is cool but learn how to control it first ive beed customizing trucks all my life and probaly will never stop. I think itll be great to have more sport truck enthuisist out there making a name for ourselves.If you want some real fab. tech pick up a street rod mag., these people make frames for 51 mercs thatll do anything . Oh yea im using bags too, just remeber they have spring rates like coils so buy the ones thatll suit your needs.

[crusTE72corolla]

The original DRIFT TRUCK

Yall all have your priorities wrong!!!!!!

Go practice drifting or build up an affordable vehicle to practice in instead of talking all kinds of crap on these boards.

Weight distribution this and suspension that. *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* you dont NEED any of it yet!

Anything will drift as long as YOU give it the right inputs. And before you go flaming on me about that, know that my daily driver is a 91 hardbody 4x4 extended cab with a VG30e and a stick. AND I DRIFT IT. With 31's and a worn out viscous LSD its kinda hard to break em loose in the dry but i can maintain all day in the wet. If i spent more time jerking off on the computer i would post some vids my girl shot. But i like to spend my time driving or working on my vehicles not getting carpel tunnel and bad eyesight. I wish that old thread about people drifting their mouse more than their ride was still around cus i would link to it!

And please stop calling it a hardtop its a HARDBODY or D21

To the dude who started this thread do what you want, but try the thing out with the stock susp. first. You would be surprised how capable it is. Hell if my 4x4 can do it your 4x2 should have no prob. Nismo even makes a LSD for the r200 rear end. A GOOD DRIVER an LSD and an sr or ka det would be plenty to make that thing go sideways.

[mranlet]

1st step - build a space frame! Pickups are just 2 frame rails with a motor, cab, and bed plopped on top. You WILL need some sort of space frame to achieve the torsional rigidity nescessary for drifting. If you don't have torsional rigidity it won't matter what kind of suspension you have becasue your wheels will be flopping all over the place.

2nd step - do a mid-mount: Get a pickup with an extended cab, build a firewall just behind the front seats and across the top (like a lot of people build speaker boxes). put a hard cover on the bed and cut out the bottom rear panel of the cab. You now have an engine bay in the dead center of the truck. Most motors should fit under a hard top without trouble, but your best bet would be a Mazda rotary, Subaru EJ20 or 2.5RS motor (because of the horizontally opposed design and low-low profile) hooked directly to a differential and no AWD half-shafts up front or the slip sensors removed.

3rd step - suspension: you'll have to have the suspension in mind while designing your space frame and placing the motor, but there a lot of possibilities for suspension. You could just use some Macphearson struts from another car and call it a day, which would save needing to place upper control arms. However, that wouldn't match the beauty of a double-wishbone system. For this, you could fint a wrecked or motor-less CRX and transplant the upper and lower control arms as well as the shocks and steering system. The steering rack on a CRX is aft of the spindles, which may even mount to the stock engine mounts of your truck, although you will need longer arms on it unless you want a narrow wheelbase up front. If you want to be really Le Mans abuot it, you could fabricate suspension mounting points on the rear differential and have the shocks be push-rod activated like on F1 cars and have the (fabricated) control arms attached to fnalges in the differential. Still, you would need some spindles both front and rear since strut and leaf-spring equipped cars use those suspensions to locate the half-shafts.

4th step - odds and ends: Put a fuel cell in the former-engine bay, use inboard brakes (rotors attached to where the half-shafts meet the differential and calipers bolted to the housing like the suspension is - this is similar to a Jaguar type rear end), replace your tail gate with a grille and whatever tail lights you want, mount the radiator and fan a few inches in front of the gate with a duct coming through the bed topper for good airflow along with other vents for intake and intercooler if any.

5th step - DRIFT-O-MANIA!!!

It won't have the servicability of a bed, which doesn't really seem to be what you're after. It would be one hell of a truck with excellent weight distrobution and polar moment of inertia. This is similar to what Toyota did for the Pikes Peak Tocoma, but if you refuse to do a body drop on to a new platform you may end up with more bracing and adapters than truck. I too have considered this project and it is indeed extreme, but if you want to do it, I believe that this is the best way!

Good luck and SEND LOTS OF PICTURES!!!!!!!!

-MR

[pitchedUP]

i had this drift truck idea 2 years ago, i was about to do it too, but i flipped my truck off roading...haha

you could put on rear of other cars on; i seen tacomas with supra and rx7 rear ends...or you can just do a 4 link with full bags, just make the bags really stiff when you drift. The chassis is gonna flex so you need to stiffen the bed up a bit

Re: Re: "Drift Truck" Im gonna do it!!!! goods and bads?

Originally posted by CRASHDRIVE
it'll look like a ricer truck.. so sorry..

oh yeah.. Weight distribution will be off.

my $0.02.

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Dude it's SUPPOSED to be rice, that's what makes it funny!!! A facking Drift truck, that's hilarious!!

You can still drift something even if it doesn't have an "optimal" weight distribution

But I figure with all the fabrication, and new mounts and coilovers, and the step notch set up, should all be good for a weight increase. Not only that but you ditch the factory fuel tank for a bed mounted fuel cell, and relocate the battery to the bed.

Ok, who's next, who else thinks it can't be done???

[CRASHDRIVE]

re: "RRIFT TRUCK" Im gonna Do It!!! Goods and Bads?

Originally posted by SlideRoadster
Ive lost many hours of sleep, thinking of what it would be like to have a driftin-mini truck. i can see it all now...

a Nissan Hardbody 95-96 with a SR-20DET black top under the hood.... slam it down with all the driftin-fixins.... a crazy "cab to bed" Role cage and an IRS setup in the rear... R34 rear tail lights and S-13 front 3-projectors flush into the face of the truck.... anybody feelin me? how bout some feed back im actually finally startin this project and just wanna know how itll go over fan wise. i belive itll drift well with a little weigh balancin hmm we'll see...
Thrill
to be continued

"R34 rear tail lights and S-13 front 3-projectors flush into the face of the truck.... anybody feelin me?" <---bad.

it'll look like a ricer truck.. so sorry..

oh yeah.. Weight distribution will be off.

my $0.02.

[prodigy]

I bet you would pick up a lot of style points for this at events.

[baboon's a$$]

that would be SWEEEEEEET that and I've never seen it done before on a street car.

Yeppers!!

That's exactly what I was thinking!!

Just use one of those premanufactured rear ends for minitruckin, they come with a step-notch and bag mounts, and also either 4-link or leaf spring. You'd just have to rig-up a linkage for the cantelevers, but so. Have the coilovers laying down horizontally across the bed. Oh man I can see it.

[baboon's a$$]

OH YEAH like some of the minitruckers got for thier bags or hydro setups but using coilovers intstead. that could definitely work. That's what you're talking about isn't it?

Hey look...my 2 cents!!

I used to be into minitruckin'. I once saw an "underconstruction" truck in a magazine that had a 300zx running gear underneath the body. Wasn't finished but still cool.

Maybe try a cantelever rear end, through and between the rear fender wells. Body drop the bed floor some, or notch it out for the pumpkin? Molded rear tailgate/rollpan combo w/r 34 tails molded in???

You bet yur a$$ I'm feelin' it doggy!!

We have the technology, we can make it stronger, faster, better than any other mini on the planet...

[baboon's a$$]

you could always try a racing shop. It may cost you some $$$ to get them to fab it for you but you'd have more choices like using a penske or carrera setup with eyebolts at both ends of the shock. The question is where ya gonna put the top mount? the bottom one's easy you just put the bracket where the center of the leaf spring used to be. I think that would work, not positive though.

[SilverGhost]

my friend andrew owns a 94 nissan d21 hardbody and he has toyed around with the idea of drifting it but can't find a place to get coilovers to replace the leaf springs in the rear. Does anybody know of anybody or anyplace that supplies kits?