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(QUALIFYING RESULTS) XTREME DRIFT CIRCUIT Round #1 Irwindale Speedway, CA

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  • boxmod
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    with d2m I agree and same way we did nopi 2008 when i joined the judging staff. everyone benefits. the only reason not to hold qualifying until the 2nd day would be IF there was time constraints... which if you are only getting 30 or less drivers, shouldnt be an issue imo.


    conspire: as far as being fair across the season i dunno. as a driver, I'd rather be rewarded for supporting your series by getting as much track time as you can get me. if next leg there is 2x as many cars, I should understand we might not get as much track time and qualifying might have to cut down the field earlier.

    also, tandem practice can sometimes help drivers advance their skill. those at the higher level sometimes are protective of their lines and dont want to give secrets away whatever. id say with the money into this, the more tandem the better for the drivers, fans, and overall fun. Plus, run counts will be doubled for drivers and get them more track time. obviously you want to start out solo, but it would be awesome if all drivers got some tandem practice. sometimes the step from solo->tandem is why people struggle so hard in competitions and do so well solo, drivers in general dont have enough real tandem with fellow skilled drivers.

    Back to the original topic...As long as all the drivers at a particular event are treated the same, then it should be fine.

    I'm not able to drive XDC this season because of finances, but id be glad to be part of the events if you guys need someone with experience and a passion for the sport.
    Last edited by boxmod; 03-21-2010, 11:20 AM.

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  • conspire
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    The format of this event was done to keep it consistent and fair throughout the entire season.

    For example, say there is a 28 driver field. A car breaks before qualifying on the first day and doesn't have enough time to repair it in order to qualify, but does have enough time to fix it overnight for the second day. What do you do at the next round is there is 40+ drivers and a car breaks before qualifying and doesn't have enough time to repair it before qualifying, but does if they are allowed to overnight? You can't format the entire event around cars breaking. If there's less or more than 32 cars at event, you have to still run it the same. If anyone has any questions or would like to discuss the format or offer ideas, I'm quite an easy person to get in contact with, therefore feel free to call me at 804-657-7626, email me at brian@xtremedriftcircuit.com, or we can discuss it on here, I'm fine with all three. We're trying to make this as fun and fair for all involved.

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  • D2M
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    Drifting, not politics

    Drifting is about the driver, his car and the team, not the sponsors or the media. When your out, your out, regardless of the judges, your car breaking, having a bad day, 50 drivers or just 20 drivers or whatever. You just man up. load up and go to the next race and hope everything works out. You can have the best day of your life and still lose and sometimes you have a bad day and you win. That's what makes drift different than other sports where finish line tells the story. In drift, you have to battle everyone, including the car, weather and the judges. If you do what you want and start pleasing the media and sponsors first, the integrity of the drifting is gone and once again money takes over and the era of the privateer is gone.

    Now, on another note, the format should be different for the pro-am than FD, you have less qualified drivers who need seat time, let them practice all day long the day before and force them to tandem, its as fun to watch the practice tandems as the real race and that is good for the crowd---practice solo runs on early schedule before the crowds get in, then start the tandems practice on race day, and please no qualifying on Friday, there is too much money spent by these privateers plus travel not to make it to Saturday, thats being short sighted by management and hurts the show. The drivers who broke down Friday should get the day and night to get their car rolling, that's exciting and that is drift....and most of all you start developing the drivers for a better show. I hope XDC realizes this and caters this to the people and drivers.

    Don't shoot me, its only my humble opinion.

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    Originally posted by YOitzJDM View Post
    Enough media that the 2 drivers who didn't qualify for tomorrow will get so much exposure that they won't care?

    XDC should be worried about return on investment. They want as many of their drivers to get as much exposure as possible. One of those cars that was eliminated has a substantial amount of sponsors. If there's even 1 more media guy there tomorrow than there was today, that sponsor got LESS return on their investment than they would have if there WASN'T an elimination today.

    the elimination did nothing but limit the exposure that 2 drivers and their sponsors will get from this. Limiting exposure isn't something XDC wants to do at their first event.

    if you made it into the finals its because you showed up. if you didnt qualify its because your car broke or you suck really bad.

    and also who are you referring to with this:

    "One of those cars that was eliminated has a substantial amount of sponsors"

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  • boxmod
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    yea when I was part of judging in nopi we decided that practice all day the first day would make a better show the next day. These are (supposed to be) ProAm drivers who need a little more seat time than FD Pro and the more they get, the better they are, better tandem they will have, better show for crowd, more runs = more woth the expense, and more exposure for all. If XDC is only gettin 25ish drivers an event, they should make those 25 happy.

    I'd love to go drive this series, financially a lot of us are screwed.

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  • BigGameHit
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    Nick speaking of a show that drags....... that is the difference I see between Japanese and American drift fans. The Japanese will watch every second of an event, qualify rounds in all.

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  • Bebop
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    they had solo runs on friday and only holding tandem sat?

    that kinda sucks

    but hot damn look at that list, alot of those guys have major years drifting under their belt. Lance, Alex, Andrew, and Quoc all benn puting it down for 4 + years.
    Last edited by Bebop; 03-20-2010, 02:49 AM.

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  • nick_h
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    i think all of u r missing his point

    im pretty sure he understands the concept of qualifying and understands what it is for and doesn't need an explanation

    he is saying that by running qualifying on friday when there is less media u r eliminating alot of cars that could potentially bring more media attention on saturday (if qualifying was saturday every car is guaranteed to be on the track getting media attention rather than just 16 or 20 of them), hence less media exposure for XDC and i totally agree with him

    but if xdc is choosing to run the qualifying on friday rather than saturday for the sake of not having a show that drags a$$ all day long and gets boring to watch, i also understand that too

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  • BigGameHit
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    ^^ indeed... makes you want to cry on the outside sometimes....

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  • deadpirate
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    not counting the dude that crashed and didnt even get to run qualifying. thats a part of racing

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  • CelicaDRIFTER
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    also there were quite a few people who couldnt get their cars finished in time.

    and there were a few at the event that barely got there car done and even had some work to do on their car over there.

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  • BWilkerson
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    Its not the series' fault that someone didnt qualify. It could happen to anyone, sponsors or not.

    I can only assume they use a top 20 tandem bracket...
    How much credibility would a series have if they decided that on this day they would let 22 drivers in to the main event instead of the 16 or 20 that normally takes place, just cause the drivers list wasnt long.

    The purpose of qualifying is to set a bracket.... in this case it was a top 20. If 30 drivers showed up... than 10 of them with or without sponsors would get less exposure on the day of the main event. In this case only 22 drivers signed up so only 2 got sent packing. Thats competition, thats how it works....
    Last edited by BWilkerson; 03-19-2010, 11:30 PM.

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  • YOitzJDM
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    Enough media that the 2 drivers who didn't qualify for tomorrow will get so much exposure that they won't care?

    XDC should be worried about return on investment. They want as many of their drivers to get as much exposure as possible. One of those cars that was eliminated has a substantial amount of sponsors. If there's even 1 more media guy there tomorrow than there was today, that sponsor got LESS return on their investment than they would have if there WASN'T an elimination today.

    the elimination did nothing but limit the exposure that 2 drivers and their sponsors will get from this. Limiting exposure isn't something XDC wants to do at their first event.

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  • deadpirate
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    you would be surprised..there was a decent amount of media out there today...

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  • YOitzJDM
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    what was the purpose of qualifying today? To have 2 fewer drivers to entertain the crowd tomorrow?

    I bet those drivers feel pretty crappy, considering the amount of media who attended an event on a Friday in March is probably pretty slim....

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