Ask ALEX PFEIFFER Something!

[silviaguy]

Alex, you rocked on Sunday! The whole event was very cool. Can I ask what broke on the S2000? Also my favorite line of the day from Alex.

Some Girl: Alex, can you take a picture with me?!
Alex: huh??...Right now?.
Some Girl: yea.
Alex: Let me waste these tires first.

If anyone wants I took over 300 pictures of this event. They are loaded at ... http://tsubasa.us/gallery/DriftEvent

[yarzan]

the green car in pic 43 is the best for drifting.

[280zxfactor]

Professional drifting, as precious as you little people on drifting.com may think it is, will soon head into a steep decline. This page simply gushes the idiocy of unconditional American commercialization. Look at the homepage. A spooge of adds and stupid things that any true driver (NOT enthusiast, driver. Huge difference) would care nothing about. Just wait for the D1 event 2006 (IF it lasts even that long) sponsored by Winston cigs. Is it really worth saving $3.50 on a ticket? Alex: My question for you is simply this. What are you going to do with yourself when this professional drifter (a joke in itself) fad is over. Any other types of racing you can see yourself getting into? Because even the best jokes (Pro drifitng) are only funny for so long. Then they get stale. Don't think I'm bitter, I couldn't give a *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*. The fact is, all fads must come to a close (yoyos, pintos, furbies, koosh balls, transformers, and the most pathetic of all, "Professional" drifting.) Since when is it considered "pro" to lower lap times by losing foward momentum? I guess I'm just missing something. In my eyes, real racers drive a line.

[Doriftogasm]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by silviaguy
[B]Alex, you rocked on Sunday! The whole event was very cool. Can I ask what broke on the S2000? Also my favorite line of the day from Alex.

Some Girl: Alex, can you take a picture with me?!
Alex: huh??...Right now?.
Some Girl: yea.
Alex: Let me waste these tires first.

HAHA, i was there too when he said that, it was so funny . . . just shows how much alex enjoys this sport...i was in the rs*r booth in and out all day with the crew. i belive he broke an axel...

anyways ALEX ! ! ! thanks again brotha for coming out to chicago... hope you had a good time for the 2 days you were out here...thanks again for being a phresh *Censored**Censored**Censored* kat and flying around in the golfkart at rt. 66 to take me to get a hamburger!!! hope to see you soon out in LA for D1...
-josh!!!!!!

[hatebbobbarker]

Originally posted by 280zxfactor
Professional drifting, as precious as you little people on drifting.com may think it is, will soon head into a steep decline. This page simply gushes the idiocy of unconditional American commercialization. Look at the homepage. A spooge of adds and stupid things that any true driver (NOT enthusiast, driver. Huge difference) would care nothing about. Just wait for the D1 event 2006 (IF it lasts even that long) sponsored by Winston cigs. Is it really worth saving $3.50 on a ticket? Alex: My question for you is simply this. What are you going to do with yourself when this professional drifter (a joke in itself) fad is over. Any other types of racing you can see yourself getting into? Because even the best jokes (Pro drifitng) are only funny for so long. Then they get stale. Don't think I'm bitter, I couldn't give a *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*. The fact is, all fads must come to a close (yoyos, pintos, furbies, koosh balls, transformers, and the most pathetic of all, "Professional" drifting.) Since when is it considered "pro" to lower lap times by losing foward momentum? I guess I'm just missing something. In my eyes, real racers drive a line.

im sure someone else will point out to you that real drifters drift a line as well, and is actually judged criteria in d1.



but lets focus on the most important part of your rant, how are transformers a fad? clearly you were a gi joe fan and unable to truly appreciate the robots in disguise. but you know what, transformers will never die, check out the prices they can fetch on ebay. what about your precious gi joes now.


btw, nothing will ever be more pathetic then furbies, NOTHING.

[Zach300zx]

280zxfactor

Just in case you where uninformed(which you seem to be) drifting has been around for close to, if not more than, 40 years. Just because you believe the sport is not one of true motorsports quality doesn't mean you have to come in an rain on all the enthusiast's heres parade. I may not have the most posts on the boards, but i do read a lot of the stuff these fellow enthusiasts write. I don't think its right for you to come in here and just declare the sport, that a lot of these people love, one which brings down the quality of motorsports.
Also, rather off topic.
-Zach
Edit: I personally like the way ^ said it better than myself, was a bit more calm and humorous.

[Hubert Young]

Professional drifting, as precious as you little people on drifting.com may think it is, will soon head into a steep decline. This page simply gushes the idiocy of unconditional American commercialization. Look at the homepage. A spooge of adds and stupid things that any true driver (NOT enthusiast, driver. Huge difference) would care nothing about. Just wait for the D1 event 2006 (IF it lasts even that long) sponsored by Winston cigs. Is it really worth saving $3.50 on a ticket? Alex: My question for you is simply this. What are you going to do with yourself when this professional drifter (a joke in itself) fad is over. Any other types of racing you can see yourself getting into? Because even the best jokes (Pro drifitng) are only funny for so long. Then they get stale. Don't think I'm bitter, I couldn't give a *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*. The fact is, all fads must come to a close (yoyos, pintos, furbies, koosh balls, transformers, and the most pathetic of all, "Professional" drifting.) Since when is it considered "pro" to lower lap times by losing foward momentum? I guess I'm just missing something. In my eyes, real racers drive a line.

280ZXfactor: Even though I agree with some points you have brought up, why do you have to sound so bitter and sarcastic? I personally don't like to drag race but I still have respect for the people who do it because they love it. I would not make fun of them just simply because I don't like it. People with passion about something are respectable, no matter what it is. I really want to ask you this, what is bothering you about drifting? Because you can't do it? Why do you care and come on this forum, which the name of the site already says "drifting.com", and bashed on the sport?

Since when is it considered "pro" to lower lap times by losing foward momentum? I guess I'm just missing something. In my eyes, real racers drive a line.

I guess you are really missing something here... First, there are no lap times and second, the racing line is one of the judging criteria. However, I do notice a lot of the drifters now do not know too much about lines... but I have always stress driving grip before drifting.

However, I agree with you that drifting is starting to turn in a hugh American Commercialization and this is something that really concerns us now. It's been the discussion every time we drifters and tuners got together and we are going to do something about it. The idea is that we want to remain in control of the direction of the sport. There is going to be collective effort to address the issue.

I have a few years of road racing and autocrossing under my belt and I have been involoved in racing for quite sometime. What I found is that it is really stressful to be in an arena where you have more enemies than friends. Many drifters and even road racers have similar views. The drift scene, in contrast, has relatively more grassroots level people that just want to go out and have fun. All of the drivers in Formula D are my friends... There are relatively less enemy factor. Everybody helps each other out, from borrowing parts to manpower just to get their cars on the track so they can compete and have fun. How long this is going to last is questionable of course, but at least it's still going on right now. And we will try our best to keep this culture going.

You said drivers and enthusiasts have "huge difference". It is probably this view you have that stop you from being about to appreciate drifting... IMO, a TRUE DRIVER is a MOTORSPORT ENTHUSIAST that likes anything to do with wheels (that is, a road racer is probably enthusiastic about other forms of motorsport, of course they might prefer one over the other). I am sure there are a lot of people out there sharing my view. I don't think pro drivers would be pro if they are not an enthusiast.

I agree that drifting may just be a fad to the American public but I guarantee you that drifting will not die. There will always be people like us, the true ENTHUSIASTS, doing it for the rest of our lives... I guess this is my answer to your question to Alex. Moreover, is there a rule that prohibits drifters from becoming a road racer or drivers of other forms of motorsports??

280zxfactor, go out and drift your 280. A TRUE ENTHUSIAST will definitely fall in love... I say that from my experience. I love to convert people...

Sorry Alex, a little off topic here...

[tonesdef]

yeah alex thanks for sunday. Don't know if you remeber me but thanks for come to brians and partying it up at the after party.
mike

[hatebbobbarker]

hubert you failed to address the real issue, his assault towards transformers.

btw thanks zach.

[Zach300zx]

Hey alex where you driving your corolla at the Drift Atlanta event? If so i was cheering for you against the viper, i thought sam was bullying you around the track. In my personal opinion you where giving it more of a technical charge and using a lot of talent to try and push your little corolla past the big beast of a viper. Which i think requires a bit more skill, not putting sam down though. He is a very talented driver as well. Keep up the good work.

Any time Bob

-Zach

[tonesdef]

Originally posted by 280zxfactor
Professional drifting, as precious as you little people on drifting.com may think it is, will soon head into a steep decline. This page simply gushes the idiocy of unconditional American commercialization. Look at the homepage. A spooge of adds and stupid things that any true driver (NOT enthusiast, driver. Huge difference) would care nothing about. Just wait for the D1 event 2006 (IF it lasts even that long) sponsored by Winston cigs. Is it really worth saving $3.50 on a ticket? Alex: My question for you is simply this. What are you going to do with yourself when this professional drifter (a joke in itself) fad is over. Any other types of racing you can see yourself getting into? Because even the best jokes (Pro drifitng) are only funny for so long. Then they get stale. Don't think I'm bitter, I couldn't give a *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*. The fact is, all fads must come to a close (yoyos, pintos, furbies, koosh balls, transformers, and the most pathetic of all, "Professional" drifting.) Since when is it considered "pro" to lower lap times by losing foward momentum? I guess I'm just missing something. In my eyes, real racers drive a line.

Good thing since its such a fad that you took the time to register online go to your email click on the setup HTML, than come here post 10 times. YOur just one of those losers that jumps on honda boards and go push rods rock. You honastly don't have any under standing about drifting. Drifting is used it every day motor sports all the time this is just an extreme faorm of it.

Also while drifting it is all about the line all it drifting is, is running the line but doing it side ways. No drifting isn't the fastest thing in the world but read up on alex or orido or keichi. They all drift and have broken many many track records. Hell orido just placed second in the 24hr lemans in eroupe. If you can't hold a drift than your not as good of a driver as you think you are.

[280zxfactor]

O.K. First off: There are no lap times. I couldn't have said it better myself. In a professional environment, judging is passed (as far as I'm concerned) according to cold, hard facts. Lap times in racing. Punch count or knock out in boxing. Touchdowns in football and so on. Don't get me wrong, style and finesse are great, but judging a racing event by them? It's like a beauty pageant on wheels. It won't last in "muscle bred, burger fed" America. And odds are, I won't be here to say I told you so. Second, I hold the utmost respect for drifting in general, I just rally don't appreciate the way American commercialization is whiddling away at it's very foundation: a back-to-the-streets mentality that has been able to withstand the test of time seemingly everywhere but in America. It's not easy for me to admit this, becuase I love my country very much, but I have seen the ravages of advertising and overexposure kill even the best items/ events. When it comes to drifting, I can pull a pretty good drift, but I personally see no point to doing so. It's bad for your motor, tranny, clutch, read end, U-joints, and is absolute hell on your tires. Also, I am aware that drifting has been around since the 1930's in Italy (yes, 70 years old). If I feel like going to see a drag race, I'll go to Ontario and see one on the street. If I want to see drifting or touge, I'll see them on the roads which wind through our foothills. Now do you see my mentality? There is no track that can prepare you for the real world of true kudos. Pulling up to your opponent, reving, blasting off and pulling away, all at a moment's notice. Pro racing is too exclusive, and I find that element somewhat offensive. It's like watching rich guys party, but you can't get a piece of the cake. Why pay money to see it? They act like everyone should drive a Prius, and the real driving should be "left to the professionals". I simply don't buy into that. If we don't get BTTS and start fighting this abject mind control commercialism has us under, our sect of culture could be lost forever, and a special on Speed Channel may be the closest our children ever get to experiencing the joys of motorsports firsthand. They may win you over, but my standpoint will not falter: My car is not just some hunk of iron I use for transportation, it is a piece of me, and my legacy in what I believe is a neglected aspect of preservation. What is preservation? getting an extra 15 miles to the gallon, or keeping an obscure 25 year old import in mint running condition? I would answer with the latter of the two. There is not a day that goes by when I don't think of what the two of us have been through, and it never fails to bring a smile to my face. I wouldn't wish a lack of this passion on anyone.

[hatebbobbarker]

2 questions for you

ontario, local boy eh?

why did you post on this thread, its entirely off topic, did you just have something against the focus on alex? its clear you have something against any professional driver from the comments in your post. Are you aware that many japanese pro drifters and several american pro drifters are also very succesful drivers on proffesional teams?

[tonesdef]

i totaly agree with the part that 280 says about over commericalization. I hate it and i hate the fact that so many bad drifters have so many big sponsers just becuase they were some of the first to jump up and say look at me even though they blow.

[s13champa]

Originally posted by tonesdef
Good thing since its such a fad that you took the time to register online go to your email click on the setup HTML, than come here post 10 times. YOur just one of those losers that jumps on honda boards and go push rods rock. You honastly don't have any under standing about drifting. Drifting is used it every day motor sports all the time this is just an extreme faorm of it.

Also while drifting it is all about the line all it drifting is, is running the line but doing it side ways. No drifting isn't the fastest thing in the world but read up on alex or orido or keichi. They all drift and have broken many many track records. Hell orido just placed second in the 24hr lemans in eroupe. If you can't hold a drift than your not as good of a driver as you think you are.

if you hate it so much why not turn off your tv or change the station? that's what i do when nascar is airing on 4 different channels weekly.