I suck at driving, period.

[SilverGhost]

its an S13 w/ SR20DET, correct? clutch kick the sh!t out of it!! also, with a stock T25, you dont have the torque or power down low, so just get the RPMs up and keep them there. with that hard biting clutch and stuff, all you really need is feint with clutch kick. in my S13 i never ever touched the sidebrake, always just clutch in, rev up, turn in, dump clutch, and countersteer. thats all it needed, for almost any speed. also, braking drift works really good for high speed, but i dont think you are at that point yet (by high speed i mean 65+ mph). like previously mentioned, just go to a big lot and practice donuts and maybe some manji, just to get used to the back end fanning out. once youre used to that try drifting around poles and barriers and the such, but if none are available, just make your own out of cones. hope that helps, have lots of fun. you car sounds really fun to drive, and prolly has ALOT more power than mine

[marshun]

the only time my e-break button / ebreak is used is when im trying to slow down or when i spin and i want to stop. idono if it works or not but it gets the chicks. ^_^

Mike

i usualy feint of clutch kick still learning breaking

you cant even spell "E-BRAKE". i seriously doubt it "gets the chicks".

and "braking"! dammit. youre not taking a BREAK or even eating BREAKfast.

silly *Censored**Censored**Censored* posers

[s13/350z]

I wouldnt even start trying to e-brake yet. since this is your first RWD car I would just practice low speed slides around a corner untill your ready to go faster and slide longer(assuming you can drive it well grip driving already). You wont need your "e-break" for low speed drifts. But also make sure you have the suspension tuned right. Thats very important. And in the rain with *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* tires they sometime just "roll over" instead of allowing you to slide. My old tires did it. Just control low drifts with throttle and steering. Like it was said before BASICS FIRST.

[Drift For Food]

You've had other modified cars. I'm curious how much you've pushed them. Are you comfortable at the limit of the car? Do you yet know the grip limits of the car?

If not, that's where you'll want to start. A parking lot, some back roads, wherever you can bring the car up to the traction limits safely, go out and get used to the car. The more you understand the car, the easier it will be to push it past the limit cause you'll know where it is.

Grip driving is a good place to start. Yeah, it's not drift, but you really need to learn the car first and learn the limits. Grip driving will do this. Get used to how hard you can corner the car, how well it's balanced(understeer/oversteer), and how it feels under throttle and braking, both light and heavy.

After you're comfortable at the limits, it's really easy to just push it a little further into a drift. A little more braking, a touch more steer in, a little more throttle or violent a shift under hard cornering will all get it drifting...if you're at the limit. This is the hardest part with a new car, learning the limits. It will take some time, months even, to get really comfortable and to really know the car well.


Now if you're comfortable with the car, then get down to business. Go through the techniques and really understand them. Understand how they work and what they do. If you have an open space to play in, try working on each. E-brake is only one technique. I've been drifting for a couple years, started without e-brake on a fwd car, never used it on a rwd, and still don't hardly use it with my awd Subbie. For my fwd and rwd, it was by force as they were foot type and didn't work anyways. It's useful, but it's purpose is for only certain things, generally low speed, tight work, or where you have very little side room to work with(feint).

Don't concentrate on one technique or think one technique is the solve-all solution to drifting. Each technique has its purpose and use. Each is suited for certain things. It's just a matter of you learning each, getting comfortable with each, and you learning when to use which one(s) at which time. Notice the option of plural in one. A neat thing about drifting is it's very fluid. It's not just one technique here and another there. They can be used together and work in transition from one to another. This is where drifting gets fun and personal as you gain a variety of options and can apply them in combinations that suit your style and car's behavior. I'm a feint and braking guy, works wonderfully together for me. I rarely touch the e-brake or clutch kick. I'd rather upset the car through throttle or brake modulations. That's just me.

I'm sure there's more I want to talk about, but I'll stop there for now.