p/s for drifting GTS

[dope-didly]

want to know opions on power steering on drift cars, especially on the GTS corolla's

[05m0515]

i have a gts and i took mine off when i did the motor swap. much better feedback through the wheel. not only much better for drifting, but just spirited driving in general. not much harder to turn the wheel when parking, going slow, etc...
all plusses in my opinion and highly recomend it. ive had my gts coming up on 4 years and most of those i had the PS, but now wish i would have taken it off sooner...

[GRiDRaceTech]

The GT-S is light enough that manual steering will not be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

[marshun]

i've never liked power steering while drifting. i got a 240 and i just disconnected the high pressure line.

[5Z S13]

^^ isn't parking really annoying, im still debating taking mine out completely

[AlexPfeiffer]

I beg to differ. I'm all for power steering, unless you change to a non power rack on ae86, then it gives you more angle. For 240's power is the only way to go.

[ACDSupra7]

I took it off of my FC for a while. It seems alot easier to read the feedback from the front tires when it's disabled, plus I really like resistance from the steering wheel during cornering, but that's for gripping.

What do you think about the difference in feedback?

[Slonie]

I've run the GTS with power rack 3 different ways. 1- No pump, looped lines. 2 - 20V power steering pump at full boost (it's meant to be electrically controlled, normal GTS PS pump is vacuum controlled I think), and 3 - pump with no belt...

What's sad is that I am used to the third way, which is the crappiest. I took my advice from Taka, unless you have a manual rack, use the pump. The harsh self-correcting of my car as it is now is sort of cool, but it's a lot eaiser to get behind and screw yourself up without the pump.

The car is light though, so actual steering effort is not impossible even the way I'm running it now (which is a lot harder to turn than running no pump and looped lines).

[marshun]

Originally posted by 5Z S13
^^ isn't parking really annoying, im still debating taking mine out completely

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well i dont drive it everyday but parking is a bit tougher.

i guess wether you want power steering or not is totally up to you. but personally i dont like power steering.

[5Z S13]

Is there any way you can make power steering work off and on, like when you need it, daily driving, or don't, taking it to the track or whatever?

[marshun]

i guess you could just disconnect the high pressure side.

but then you'll need to have PS fluid handy when you want the power back. :P

[Boro86driver]

i like the manual steering better than the power... the manual rack is alot better than a disconnected power one... but alex is a pro driver, for my newbie a** the non-power is better because i don't over correct as much.

[marshun]

power steering racks have faster turning ratio's than manuel one's.

i like my disconnected power rack.

[jasonaries]

I'll keep my p/s...

Besides the fact that I do stock restorations, I just like the effortless feel of the p/s. I've driven a VW for a short time in the winters to keep my 8-6's out of the salt, and I got along just fine parking, etc. I didn't notice enough of an increase in feedback to suggest that I tinker with removing the p/s. Despite my affinity for stock, I have considered removing the a/c on the gold one...

[malcolm]

I agree with alex... racing/driving/drifting will take some time to get used to a car with power-steering, but in the long run, it's better to have. Also, if you are driving a twitchy car, it would be better to have because you can react quicker (ie. drifting a Mk1 MR2... those things snap sideways SO fast... power-steering might help a bit if it were an option).

I went from racing a Turbo FC3S with the power-steering disconnected (damn, that made for hard steering with 9" slicks, and it took a toll on me after an hour in the heat of summer) to a '00 Corvette with power-steering for grandmothers. I felt like I couldn't feel a thing. After about an hour behind the wheel, I got used to it... It was almost like I was able to just use my fingertips to drive instead of my whole hand.

It'll just take some time to get used to... and when you do, you'll want to keep it that way.