The Unknown

[AE86GetSideways]

im not sure if any of you know what the heck im talking about but ill try and explain it... when im driving, for example, I want to make the car grip hard and take the corner at full throttle and i dont know how to do it but i somehow achive it... its like my mind and sense know waht i need to do but I cant tell someone how i did it cuz i dont know.. and another good example is the shifty foot thing... when im not sure if I should hit the brakes or the gas my right foot kinda moves left and right real fast and then i saw the R32 driver on intial D do the same thing.. and ive never seen anyone do that before.. and it looked exactly like how i did it... does anyone know what im talking about ???

[Parry]

Hrm...well, see, the shifty foot thing...that would be indecision fresulting from not knowing the road well enough to know if you should stay on it or being braking

As far as driving at the limits of adhesion, after a while you just sorta learn how to feel what the car is doing.

[Drift For Food]

When you've had a car long enough, you'll just know what to do. You'll understand it so well that you will push it right at the limit with no need to think about it. The braking thing is something I do to, shift back and forth between gas and brake. It's just for fine tuning weight balance I think. You're mind knows what it's doing even if you don't lol. You can usually sense the front and rear grip and fine tune the weight as you corner hard to keep balance.

[ACDSupra7]

This is what happens when you watch too much Initial D and think you're Takumi =\

[Wickdmarz]

Originally posted by ACDSupra7
This is what happens when you watch too much Initial D and think you're Takumi =\

hehe thats hilarious!! Sounds like the unknown was easily solved.

[Drift For Food]

haha, Initial D is looked at a little too real by some people. It's fun to watch, but not accurate, lol. I don't remember any "shifty foot" part, though.

[Parry]

Originally posted by ACDSupra7
This is what happens when you watch too much Initial D and think you're Takumi =\

Winner, lol

[mranlet]

You can easily be giving full throttle and still be gripping as long as you're not powering yourself out of the traction circle.

Watch more Drift Tengoku and less Initial D.

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-MR

[SilverGhost]

i think i kinda know what you are talking about.... i used to be like that when i was hardcore drifting my 240...i would just kinda drive not really thinking about it, just doing it, then everyone watching would be like "whoa, that was some sick feint!!" i would usually say something like "yeah, of course"...lol

i think thats what you mean, right...?

[Drift For Food]

Feint? Is that what I did? hmm...

Yeah, when you get in the "zone," lol, you can do some intesting things when you actually don't think about it. I believe it's called focus...or the lack of it

I've done some corners like that. I just drive, flick the car and do something and come out nice. I may think about what I want to do for the corner, play it in my head quick, and then through the corner, I'm already thinking about where I want to end up what I'm doing after the exit. It's funny how everything seems to work out, lol, usually pretty decent too.

If you know a car well enough, it's almost like it drives itself. You know how the car is going to behave, and you've already trained your mind and muscles to move right through practice and past experiences. At this point, you can pretty much run your car at the limit without thought.

I owned a Lesabre for 3 years and I could drive that at its limit without thought, on any surface, asphalt to a sheet of ice and everything in between. That's the car I started drifting on. It was crap for drifting, fwd, BIG, tons of understeer, very sooofffftttt suspension, but I knew that thing so well that I transitioned to drifting with it pretty easy. I could pretty much toss that car sideways at 60mph into a corner, cut along the apex, and exit right on the outside edge. It was only doable on gravel, so that's what I learned on. I tried on asphalt, but the weights moves too slow to feint and braking requires heavy braking and steering at near the grip limit to even get the rear end to even start to hop sideways. I had no e-brake either, foot one that sticks on, lol, so not usable. Still, it got me used to weight shifting and a few concepts of drifting. Understanding that car so well really made it easy. It aslo allowed me to be able to push the car so hard while staying quite safe.

It's actually quite fun knowing a car that well. It's really comforting knowing you can toss around the car so freely. In no other car you just just peg the trottle and fly down some back road at 80mph, come up to a 90 degree corner, slam on the brakes right at the grip limit, turn in a little to bring it sideways, slide through the corner outside to apex to outside, and lay on the throttle again with so much easy and without fear or concern.

[SilverGhost]

i know that feeling well...and i lve that feeling...if i was in a parking lt with my 240, it just didnt feel right if it wasnt sideways, and if i wasnt pushing it on curvy roads i would get my health checked...lol, its always good to know your car so well...