D1GP Rigged?

[tpb31]

For qualitfying, the white cones were used as clipping points. FOr the tandem, the course extended to right about the area where Rhys spun.

[LOVMUFN]

CRASHDRIVE... For one... the corses were different. I do have to agree the drivers on Sat didn't drive as well as most of them usually do.

Secondly, just because people do the little shimmy feint before they initiate does not mean they do not clutch kick too. I am not pro or anything but I can definately tell you there are not always solid lines between techniques. Sometimes feinting is enough, sometimes not. Usually depending on traction issues and the slope, if any, of the corse. I almost always do at least a little feint AND clutch kick because it gets A LOT more angle, and if you are going in hot and you want to slow down a little, it is easier to ger 'too much' angle to slow down. Maybe because I am not all that good, the momentum generated by a small, or large, feint makes it way easier for me to get a little too sideways if I want to and am going in too hot and still want to make the corner without trading paint with a wall.

[CRASHDRIVE]

Originally posted by tpb31
For qualitfying, the white cones were used as clipping points. FOr the tandem, the course extended to right about the area where Rhys spun.

that still didn't make any sense, because majority of the drivers (qualifying or tandem) was not even drifting or pushing themselves anymore after the 2nd cone. I have vids (i have to look at it again).

[CRASHDRIVE]

Originally posted by LOVMUFN
CRASHDRIVE... For one... the corses were different. I do have to agree the drivers on Sat didn't drive as well as most of them usually do.

Secondly, just because people do the little shimmy feint before they initiate does not mean they do not clutch kick too. I am not pro or anything but I can definately tell you there are not always solid lines between techniques. Sometimes feinting is enough, sometimes not. Usually depending on traction issues and the slope, if any, of the corse. I almost always do at least a little feint AND clutch kick because it gets A LOT more angle, and if you are going in hot and you want to slow down a little, too much angle is a good thing. Because I am not all that good, the momentum generated by a small, or large, feint makes it way easier for me to get a little too sideways if I want to and am going in too hot and still want to make the corner without trading paint with a wall.

Oh i'm not saying that i'm a pro. I DO know they they clutch kick right after or while doing a feint. But my question was, why wasn't it being utilize as much by the US drivers while the D1 use it effectively and getting good results with it.

[NismoSigma]

Re: Anyone else feel D1GP was rigged?

Originally posted by Craftsman
D1GP WAS RIGGED?!

no.

[mav1178]

Originally posted by CRASHDRIVE
that still didn't make any sense, because majority of the drivers (qualifying or tandem) was not even drifting or pushing themselves anymore after the 2nd cone. I have vids (i have to look at it again).

That was their problem... the fact that Rhys almost spun on turn 3 (and was marked with a zero for the run) against Imamura was all the proof needed.

But whatever. D1 is D1.

-alex

[SpoonFork]

First off, Alex, Calvin, and the rest of the Americans that drove at the event, you guys did a good job representing.

Has anyone ever heard of the term JET LAG? Almost all of the Japanese D1 drivers flew in thursday/friday morning.. do you hear them complaining about how tired or cold they were? How they didnt know the course, How their cars weren't set up for the humidity of the US?

Imagine it the other way around, American US drifters goto super HUMID japan to drift 2 days before an event at lets say ebisu where the bumps and jumps are WAY more treacherous than any drift event EVER held in the US. (yeah, that weak *Censored**Censored**Censored* bumpy course that alot you complained about at the D1 search is nothing compared to this course and the crazy thing is that i've seen worse over there). How do you think the outcome will be, pretty much the same with the same people complaining of how they didnt get used to the course, this and that.. Think about that for a second?

Japan brings this event to us and sure, they make money doing it but if D1 wasn't here, you think there would be an Alex Phieffer, Calvin Wan or any of those other drifting "leagues" like Formula Drift? Instead of BOOing and shouting USA, USA, USA like the announcer started til Toshi cut him off, be happy they're here and respect them. Stop WHINING, copying and pasting the same rants and raves and posting on boards. Just go out there yourself and drift and enjoy what THEY brought us.

[CRASHDRIVE]

Also, just another bit of info. Tanaguchi has been driving all day (GT300 and D1) with almost no rest. I forgot whoelse was driving a GT car but on top of hours change and driving practically all day, D1 drivers put on a huge amount of handicap. You think tanaguchi was crazy at the USvsJPN, imagine him with a full day of rest and just an hour of practice.

[Weapon X]

Originally posted by CRASHDRIVE
Also, just another bit of info. Tanaguchi has been driving all day (GT300 and D1) with almost no rest. I forgot whoelse was driving a GT car but on top of hours change and driving practically all day, D1 drivers put on a huge amount of handicap. You think tanaguchi was crazy at the USvsJPN, imagine him with a full day of rest and just an hour of practice.

This must've been on Sunday, because on Saturday Taniguchi was sitting a couple seats down from me all incognito with his girlfriend; hat pulled low and wearing sunglasses. I was thinking "wtf he's so supposed to be in that RE Amemiya car that just passed".

[CRASHDRIVE]

Originally posted by Weapon X
This must've been on Sunday, because on Saturday Taniguchi was sitting a couple seats down from me all incognito with his girlfriend; hat pulled low and wearing sunglasses. I was thinking "wtf he's so supposed to be in that RE Amemiya car that just passed".

Yes cordes I was referring to Sunday, this thread says D1 rigged right?! There was no D1 on Saturday! ha ha.. j/p man! hey, guess what?! My brother got all the D1 drivers Autographs in one BRIDE t-shirt. We're planning to sell it on E-bay. ha ha..I'll just give you a call later man.

[mav1178]

Originally posted by Weapon X
This must've been on Sunday, because on Saturday Taniguchi was sitting a couple seats down from me all incognito with his girlfriend; hat pulled low and wearing sunglasses. I was thinking "wtf he's so supposed to be in that RE Amemiya car that just passed".

Get your facts straight. He is one of the drivers for the Weds Sport Celica.

-alex

[Ghost of Duluth]

This is stupid. For a competition to be rigged, the winner has to be pre-determined before the event. I.E. Nomuken is going to win. You cannot rig a Drifting event. It can be biased as in a Japanese driver is going to win but thats it.

The American drivers drove well, the judges picked a Japanese driver. Like Brian said "It's D1, it is what it is". Sheesh, drop it already. All the clip point arguements, cone arguements and whining isn't going to change the fact that Drifting is Japans sport and we are just coming up. Our guys are kicking *Censored**Censored**Censored*, be happy with that.

[mechaniac]

The sooner you accept the fact that D1=WWE, the better off you'll be.

[Weapon X]

Originally posted by mav1178
Get your facts straight. He is one of the drivers for the Weds Sport Celica.

-alex

Oh I'm sorry master of the JDM. Guess I'm not allowed to make mistakes.

[GoukiS14]

Originally posted by mechaniac
The sooner you accept the fact that D1=WWE, the better off you'll be.

um.... no....