SAMUEL HUBINETTE, Formula D Atlanta WINNER

[INFO]

sam def dai

1)sam
2) dai
3)rhys

[iownju]

some of the best drifting action ive seen in a long time, especially from american drifters. A good day

[tony speed]

this is a bunch of crap. here's the real story. sam battled taka in the ae86 and everyone in the crowd though the 86 won. why? 1) samuelle hubinette is battling a corolla,and he guns it down the straight every time down the starting long-a hill.he gets like a 150-250 footlead in his viper basically drag racing,no drifiting yet. 2) then on the u-bend, the ae86 catches up to sam and tails him every time he runs. samuelle, on one run b-lines the 86and tries to steal the lead, not drifiting, and the ae86 REGAINS the near miss. A ae86, out manuvers a viper that is going in a stright line. this goes on for 3 "one moretimes"and by this time the crowd is pissed. it is clear that a ae86 with a supreme disadvantage is kicking samuelle's butt back to the ice. the crowd is unianimously for 86. and boos when hubinette is mentioned. after calling "one moretime" for the 4th time, the ae86 is now overheating from red-lining his car the wholeway and has to withdraw. remember, he was able to tail hubinette EVERY time through the u-bend after starting off with like a HUGE distance back,because samuelle is not even sosportman like as to wait for the 86 on a LONG starting straight. instead he guns his engine and leaves the ae86 every time going DOWNHILL. by the time the race ended, everyone knew something was wrong.


we need more restrictions:
1) eliminate long straights on courses
2) weight equalize the cars if necessary to handicap 80,000 dollar engines
3) come up with standardized point ratings for disadvantages or havemore judges sotwo japanese guys don'tstare at each other for 3 minutes and call one more time when the strongest car is placed against the weakest.

hubinette has lost ALL props in my eyes.
he knew he was battling a better drifter and used his engine to put distance between himself and taka.

[Aiki-Drift]

It seems that in the U.S. the concentration is on these big sweeper drifts (round 1 NJ) in contrast to the Japanese technical drift courses. (IMO) if there is a sweeper in the beginning of a course, after a straightaway, it should count only as entry and should not be judged. Second and third technical turns should be priority in judging, thus making the comp. a little more even and correct. Can someone from JAPAN please enlighten us upon how it's done out there?

[soultron]

Sounds like a complicated situation.
Any footage? I'd like to see it.

[my 1 88 u]

!@$@#$!@$@# formula d judges

[tony speed]

for regular drifting it doesn't matter but for tsuiso it matters because of the advantage given to a passing driver. it's not right to get an insane lead forcing the other driver to push 5X as hard. it was pushing the 86 engine to the limit 3x that finally killed the engine. meanwhile, when samuelle runs from back he's bearing down on the ae86's back at the start, and gets dusted in drift. yes, sam was having trouble keeping up on some of the runs...in a viper. so they argue wheel-base disadvantages viper...

[drift matic]

keichii would have seen it differently
the viper never would have won

[iownju]

i agree tony, the 86 should of had that all the way, and i hate how sam guns the car when he is in front, an unfair advantage. Id also like to see how their new computer judging system handeled this, but sam has the power and he'll keep abusing, its going to happen, and ill put my video of the battles together and post them as soon as possible.

[my 1 88 u]

don't eliminate long straights, just discuss in the drivers meetings when cars should gun it and initiate. In d1gp the high hp cars fall back off the AE86's and pass them when they are about to initiate thier drift.

as far as handicaping vehicles, no. Everyone had atleast one run that was damn near D1 level, it is just an issue of consistancy, Rhys and Sam had it others didn't.

Why the hell did Ross Petty not qualify but Tony A did?
Are these judges able to aply handicaps?
If the Viper drops angle to catch up to the GTO why does the Viper get the advantage?
Why was Sam from Tiger Racing not allowed to enter?


Sam drove his *Censored**Censored**Censored* off and was consistant in every match but should have lost to Taka.
Ken had the longest slides into turn one (damn that boy belongs in a silvia).
Calvan Wan had the most angle most smoke and deserved his first place qualify.
Casper was the man, too bad you followed to close to a slower driver then spun.

If you are not going to fire the anouncer atleast give him a co-host that knows what the !%@# he is talking about so they can compliment each other. (I swear I'm gonna start a "Dumb J-Rod Quote" thread)

[my 1 88 u]

keichii would have seen it differently
the viper never would have won

In D1 the high hp cars floor it before the apex to slow the car and smoke the tires and its hard to do.
Viper before apex. blip.......blip.......blip......
Viper at corner exit. blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[my 1 88 u]

Last thing to complain about is the course set up and explanation. Apex markers go behind the curbing, not on top of them. So many bumpers were claimed because of that stupid mistake. During Ross Petty's qualifying runs he had some of the best entries that day. You could tell that he mistook the fourth clipping point for the second clipping because the course doubles back on itself and was not explained properly, never the less he held angle, drift and speed and showed alot of control to be able to hit each one. He should have proceeded to the top 16

[Aiki-Drift]

Damn it. I wish I could have seen what you were talking about. But, yeah, in general we as a whole are not knowledgable enough, as of yet on technique, course setup, and etiquette, compared to Japan. At the NJ event I was explaining to my G/F that the drivers are having problems maintaning substantial angles and transitions because of the ridiculously high banking at WALL. Also, Japan does not have banked courses, only elevation changes (up/down). Well, some Jerk Offs behind us were chuckling like I didn't know what the hell I was talking about. I believe every driver hated that damn track and that is why they were running without front bumpers. I think even Tony Angelo said the track sucked. Therefore, a lot of peaple don't have a clue and some people are just doing the best they can with what they got. Formula D still rocks though!!

[Aiki-Drift]

Yeah. I was hoping Ross Petty would have takin it. I like his attitude towards drifting, from what I've seen in videos ofcourse. BOSO. I'm also surprised at the problems Forseberg is having. I wonder how Gushi would have performed with the S13.

[slide]

taka vs. sam

winner taka

NOTHING AGAINST SAM - sam is a great driver and i think he is a cool dude, but you know what he lost that one, fair and square, WHY??? because TAKA DROVE HIS *Censored**Censored**Censored* OFF to keep up and AGRESSIVELY challenge that viper......plain and simple, NOT A SINGLE DRIVER, CREW MEMBER, ETC. SAW IT DIFFERENTLY we all knew who won and this will be brought up, those two guys did drive they're *Censored**Censored**Censored* off but again given the differences in cars TAKA WON HANDS DOWN. no questions asked, a 20yr. old 180hp (maybe) all motor 4cyl. car (<--- think about that) against a viper that makes a insane power, new technology, and all kinds of backing....in that logic the fact that they took 4, 5, or 6 runs is proof positive that he ran better, neither driver showed a decent amount of fault, i might agree, BUT one drive named Taka showed driving ability like no other to stand up to that giant of a machine, but its an objective sport, this is true, and if you think the viper won, you really dont know what to look for in a tandem battle. again no offense sam, but i know what i saw, and what everyone else saw, and it just didnt make sense, and kill the one more time stuff, truth be told that is what killed taka's chances, make a decision judges


WHY didnt Hubert Young qualify for best 16???? (HUBERT YOUNG = MR. GREAT SPEED HUGE ANGLE INCREDIBLE SMOKE SICKENING CONSISTENCY...ALL WEEKEND LONG) that was hubert young this weekend

alright i need a shower......