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  • What chassis cars have you driven and whats your opinion?

    I would like to know how many people free posting on here actually know how to go out and really drift. Not just kicking a car halfway through a wet turn. I have driven 7 different chassis... Miata (duh), S14, S13, S2000, Z32 300ZX TT, RX-7 (n/a FC) and a few Corolla GT-S's. These are jsut *MY*opinions about these cars.... i want to hear other people input.

    I'm used to the Miata, so its home to me. It's twitchy and you have to be on top of the car at all times, which i like... the challenge. Once you make a turn, you are dedicated to it. Getting a full-lock drift is very difficult. The 99 Miata i have now seems to carry mroe speed then my (kinda famous) 96 Miata. A friend of mine has a stock 91 with VLSD and i managed to slide it around, but like a corolla at this point, very underpowered and VLSD sucks compared to the later TorSen units in the 94+ models.

    The S-chassis cars were funky, i never knew what understeer in middle of a drift was until i drove one. But they both felt "lazy". You can kick the car out and it reacted very slowly and didn't seem to require much imput unless you wanted to transition, increase or decrease the drift radious. Power deliver was smooth both on the KA and the SR cars i drove. But that funky understeer was....we... intresting to say the least.

    I borrowed a S2000 at an event and found it was easier to initiate a slide then the Miata, but was equally as snappy once it was out. Power was there, even with only intake and exhaust. I later found out the rear sway bar was broken lol. Much like a FC, it requires lots of revv's and good throttle control.

    3400ZX TT... now that was a car i liked. It was like the Miata but with much bigger balls. It steps out fast, mostly due to the dynamics of the weight breaking traction. Buit the power curve was very broad and smooth. If i had the $$$, i'd definatly do one myself.

    AE86 chassis. Hmm.Smooth thats for sure. But it only gets like that when you have the power. And to get usable power from it takes a fair amount of work. I had a 87 GT-S coupe with 420,000 miles and in the wet, that car was suicide. I could be going 70mph and just flick the wheel and it would just nicely step out (maybe it was the really shitty tires). But the fact that the LSD still worked was nice too. It all worked fine in the wet, but couldnt do *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* in the dry. I took it around a the cloverleaf , in the wet, and just power over'ed at about 55mph. I did the whole drift while on the phone, and one hand on the wheel and talking to my friend in the pass seat. (i know, not safe, no need to flame), but he trusts me and i had done it several times before during the night. But like i say, it needs POWER for dry, the 4AGE lacks it without boost. Driven one 4AGZE powered car and it felt better, but still seems slightly underpowered and required a lot of clutch kicking to keep a slide.

    RX-7 (FC) base model. Nice. Its got the revv's that you need. The particular car i drove had a full and nicely matched suspension. The car felt solid and predictable, but still requires a little more driving then a 240, but not as much as a Miata. the car was running 15" tires all the way around and stickier ones in the front then the back and it felt really neutral. In n/a form, with the nice suspension, it definatly had power for 2nd gear slides. But the manual steering rack totally sucks.... lock-to-lock ratio sucks

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    Out of curiosity, what setup were the s13's that you drove running?

    MY experience with s-chassis cars has been that theyre very VERY easy to drive, and slide. Theyre very progressive feeling, and even the single-cam car Ive driven had enough power to spin 195's. Really, a very basic suspension set up (s-techs and Kyb's in my case), some thin tires, and a good clutch and lsd is all you really need to slide an S13 with ease.

    thats why theyre popular... that, and because theyre cheap.

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    • #3
      Deja Vu. Isn't that a copy of some post a while ago... maybe on another board?

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      • #4
        dunno, i haven't posted on here in awhile, but figure i mgiht as well start up again. I didnt check forum history and thought it'd make a intresting topic... sorry if its a respost

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        • #5
          The S-chassis cars were funky, i never knew what understeer in middle of a drift was until i drove one. But they both felt "lazy". You can kick the car out and it reacted very slowly and didn't seem to require much imput unless you wanted to transition, increase or decrease the drift radious. Power deliver was smooth both on the KA and the SR cars i drove. But that funky understeer was....we... intresting to say the least.
          My s14 doesnt do that unless there is a wierd slippery part of the track, I think its all in suspensions tuning. I drove another s14 with a tottally different setup. Stock ka also but with a lot of camber in the rear -3* and 205's instead of 225's I run and it felt like it had soo much more power (obviously because there was no tire on the ground ) and it would under a little mid corner but if you commit to your line it really isn't that upsetting after you are used to it.

          z33 chassis is great nice and stiff and easy to drive stock with vlsd. Great power on the stock vq, great chassis if I could afford one I would compete in one

          c6 corvette. Made me fall in love with the ls1 great motor and power delivery. A little twitchy as far as the chassis goes and not much angle at all but with some work I think it could be a decent chassis. I think the wierd rear suspension setup holds it back though. Great road course car though.

          Friend drives an IS300 and these are his impressions, no feedback! So its hard to react to the car when it doesnt provide and feedback. Much harder to drive than his s13. But again its a daily driver so it is still much heavier than his s13.

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          • #6
            howd you get the c6 to drift? my freind has one, my freind wade drives it a lot and they tried to drift it but even pulling fuses they couldnt disable the stability crap, what all did you do to it?

            and ive driven a couple of is, they seemed fine to me?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mike Peters
              howd you get the c6 to drift? my freind has one, my freind wade drives it a lot and they tried to drift it but even pulling fuses they couldnt disable the stability crap, what all did you do to it?

              and ive driven a couple of is, they seemed fine to me?

              Only drove it for a sec and it was all 1st and slower 2nd gear and I just turned the traction control button off.

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              • #8
                hmm, my buddy wade did it in his freind yaggers c6 adn said eh couldnt turn the stability off.....i bet he didnt pull the fuse out like i told him, my chevy 3500 van does awesome open diff burnouts since i pulled the fuse...have to try again.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by brainfood
                  c6 corvette. Made me fall in love with the ls1 great motor and power delivery. A little twitchy as far as the chassis goes and not much angle at all but with some work I think it could be a decent chassis. I think the wierd rear suspension setup holds it back though. Great road course car though.
                  Originally posted by brainfood

                  Only drove it for a sec and it was all 1st and slower 2nd gear and I just turned the traction control button off.
                  I'm a bit amused this review of the c6 was made based on 1 sec of driving.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by soarer
                    I'm a bit amused this review of the c6 was made based on 1 sec of driving.
                    Well not sure about you but thats about all I needed to tell I liked my s-chassis car better for drifting. Would love the motor in my car though. And this isnt motortrend's review page it was impressions of chassis you've driven and thats my impression. And the twitchy feeling prob. wasnt the chassis but the stability control trying to take over.

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                    • #11
                      im not sure of either S chassis's suspension set up, but neither was cheap stuff and i know both spent a great deal of time on matching parts. I dont know a lot about 240 suspension...its a totally different ballgame compared to the Miata's front and rear double wishbone.

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