FORMULA D Rule Changes...

[Brian]

I'm Brian

Who are you?

[courantcom]

This is very much based in reality.

Heres the problem. No Skyline had Struts in the front. C34 had them , no R34's. They used OEM parts , but OEM parts from C34 not R34.

That is where there is an issue. Formula D can "pre approve" suspension changes. They could have said that the struts in the front are fine. SA could have said they are OEM parts , from a different Nissan.

Formula D should just reconsider their decision, approve the SA entry and acknowledge that this situation could quickly escalate into something that may unravel more and more things. A sanctioning body can also stand behind their competitors and acknowledge a good thing when it comes...even if it comes from the land of the rising sun.

[courantcom]

^^ you and me are one of the few BH

this whole complaint about the skyline is retarded

The complaint about this Skyline is retarded...especially when the people making the complaints have questionable rule legitamacy themselves. It's like playing with fire.

[courantcom]

haha, maybe I am one of the few people who knows EXACTLY what the situation is on that car.

All this complaining about something so simple is the reason why a lot of people are starting to HATE the pro drift stuff in this country.

Oh well, thats what happens when you take a fun hobby and let people rip it apart and try to make a buck.

You know EXACTLY what the situation is on this car? I don't know who you are, so please introduce! =)

[courantcom]

Does this thread have any basis in reality? From what I have heard from the horses mouth is that the car has been inspected and re-inspected because people keep bitching about it. Everytime it has been under the knife by FD officials its passed. Its not an s-chassis front suspension swap it is changed from dual a-arm to mcpherson front but the mcpherson strut comes from a different model skyline so it still comes from the same chassis so its technically legal. Just curious if this is real information in this thread or you just think you know whats going on?

It's very real. It has been inspected, and re-inspected. Everyone is "learning" on this car. It's real.

[courantcom]

So the question that comes to my mind is...

How hard would it be for Autobacs to make the car legal??

Everything I've heard about the car has been heresay, but I know a few competitors weren't happy about it after the Atlanta event. From what I had heard, they modified the lower suspension pickup points and converted it to cefiro spec to use cefiro suspension since that's what they were familiar with. If that's the case, unless they did some major cutting and re-welding, it shouldn't be too hard to convert it back to skyline pickup points. Even if they did do cutting / re-welding, wouldn't they think to keep the pieces they cut off "just in case" they have to convert back to skyline spec??

How hard would it be? ...I'd say about 4 days, including paint and body work to make it all pretty again? Without paint and body work, and enough talented people, I think it can be knocked out in a day's worth of work. BUT, doing all this isn't really the "point" of it all...

I know a few competitors that weren't happy with the car after seeing it come out of the truck in Long Beach.

[deadpirate]

^^ you and me are one of the few BH

this whole complaint about the skyline is retarded

[Brian]

haha, maybe I am one of the few people who knows EXACTLY what the situation is on that car.

All this complaining about something so simple is the reason why a lot of people are starting to HATE the pro drift stuff in this country.

Oh well, thats what happens when you take a fun hobby and let people rip it apart and try to make a buck.

[olddrifter]

Always been there now just making it to the surface......................

[tyndago]

This is very much based in reality.

Heres the problem. No Skyline had Struts in the front. C34 had them , no R34's. They used OEM parts , but OEM parts from C34 not R34.

That is where there is an issue. Formula D can "pre approve" suspension changes. They could have said that the struts in the front are fine. SA could have said they are OEM parts , from a different Nissan.

[brainfood]

Does this thread have any basis in reality? From what I have heard from the horses mouth is that the car has been inspected and re-inspected because people keep bitching about it. Everytime it has been under the knife by FD officials its passed. Its not an s-chassis front suspension swap it is changed from dual a-arm to mcpherson front but the mcpherson strut comes from a different model skyline so it still comes from the same chassis so its technically legal. Just curious if this is real information in this thread or you just think you know whats going on?

[Slapshotnerd]

So the question that comes to my mind is...

How hard would it be for Autobacs to make the car legal??

Everything I've heard about the car has been heresay, but I know a few competitors weren't happy about it after the Atlanta event. From what I had heard, they modified the lower suspension pickup points and converted it to cefiro spec to use cefiro suspension since that's what they were familiar with. If that's the case, unless they did some major cutting and re-welding, it shouldn't be too hard to convert it back to skyline pickup points. Even if they did do cutting / re-welding, wouldn't they think to keep the pieces they cut off "just in case" they have to convert back to skyline spec??

[tyndago]

So I think I understand what actually happened now. Not "rule changes" but rather enforcement.

You have someone that reads the rules and sees OEM suspension. They use an OEM suspension off a different car. Missing a couple key points on it.

When they are questioned about it , rather than getting approval for it, they say that is OEM.

Now they are are going to get a slap on the knuckles for it.

[courantcom]

I know that many of a certain type of Nissan have some pickup point modifications on a rear aluminum subframe.

Hmm...how which particular Nissan would use an aluminum subframe? I can't really think of it right now, but maybe at 3:50am, it'll just hit me. *sigh* I just need some Zzzz's. ;-)

[courantcom]

So what you are saying is...that its ok for them to limit one car over another based solely on popularity and sponsors ?

Serious ?

Only the popular drivers "can" win ?

Only the big sponsors cars "can" win ?

How ridiculous of an argument is that in a supposed "professional" series ?

Lets just call it Formula - "bring us the most sponsor money to pad our pockets".

Fantastic! You can still call it "Formula-D" ...."Formula-D(ollars)"