NEW D1GP JUDGE - Adam Andretti

[boxmod]

ok how is the drift box thing gonna know if im at full lock? maybe my budget/fab skills don't allow me to drive it 85* sideways but im full lock at 70*? its basically the same as no-lift to entry, bigger budget is going to be faster, and its the judges job to determine if your driving YOUR car to its max.

I understand that maybe I/others need better cars but *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*, I don't have a bank account with more than 3 digits in front of the decimal. don't go with 'racing is expensive', companies/teams that came in and made it a $250,000+/yr sport made drifting expensive.

There almost needs to be a budget limit or classes determined by budget to make it fair these days in FD.

Lets give the guy a chance I guess, but doesnt seem like the best choice and the community seems to be in agreement on that.

[Gran Dorifto]

*sigh*.....

[DA News]

[QUOTE=boxmod;219736]ok how is the drift box thing gonna know if im at full lock? maybe my budget/fab skills don't allow me to drive it 85* sideways but im full lock at 70*? its basically the same as no-lift to entry, bigger budget is going to be faster, and its the judges job to determine if your driving YOUR car to its max.QUOTE]

agreed. Somethign else that ive noticed about measuring drift angle with a box is that different cars look "cool" at different angles. One car may "look" equally "gangster" at 15 degrees less angle. The drift box is another wrench in the mix. The simple solution is more educated and committed judges. NOne of this up in the air for 4 min and then results, the run is over, drop the hammer immeaditly basing your decision on immedeate visceral reaction to the run.

[akuma S14]

D1 is just trying to have The Fonze jump the shark!

[azndoc]

Seriously this sport has gone to just crap.

Like everyone else already said. Yes he comes from a heritage full of famous drivers blah blah blah blah.

But what does he really know about drifting. Does he care about drifting or did he sign up merely because he thought that the idea of him being a judge would be a "neat" idea?

Sure you can say that he's well respected in other motorsports, but not in this motorsport.

I know there's the whole those who can't, judge bs. But seriously this is a big mistake.

I knew that when I read that the "creators of HIN" were on board D1GP that it was going to be turned into a circus. But really this?

Man screw it, bring in Tom Cruise, or bring in Tony Stewart. Let's just have big name judges in D1 in hopes that this somehow attracts the fans.

But forget the whole reason why this sport started in the first place.

Something that you do with your friends because its fun.

America turns something that's pure and wholesome into another corporate get rich off the ignorant.

That's another thing. Drifting used to be fun. Now its all about being competitive. When was the last time the pro drivers with the exception of a few that actually go out and get into a car that's not 1000 hps and just drive to have fun at a grass root event.

No its all about who can be the top guy this and that. Build this awesome non drift car look a like car anymore.

IT IS SUPPOSE TO BE FUN YOU IDIOTS.

I've always wanted to be a D1 driver since the first time I watched a Option video in Japan.

I was going to go to the qualifier for D1GP Anaheim in hopes of maybe just maybe getting a D1 license. But after this news. I'm just disgusted by the whole concept of drifting now.

Ewwwww....

[Dori Saru Mark!]

Unfortunately, drifting has attracted kids with no money to max out his/her card and can't pay back. No wonder we're in this economic crisis.

Why is this unfortunate? Is drifting reserved for upper-class working adults? Aren't the foundations of drifting centered around the grassroots backyard mechanic? At least these "kids" not buying drugs and joining gangs... These "Kids" have a passionate hobby, what's wrong with that?

Besides, if anything, the economy pushes people to spend in order to create revenue. "Kids" that max out their credit cards dont hurt the economy, they hurt the banks and credit companies. We WANT people to spend money. If they dont have the money, its the credit companies and bank's fault for lending it in the first place.

[SSmith]

Why is this unfortunate? Is drifting reserved for upper-class working adults? Aren't the foundations of drifting centered around the grassroots backyard mechanic? At least these "kids" not buying drugs and joining gangs... These "Kids" have a passionate hobby, what's wrong with that?

Besides, if anything, the economy pushes people to spend in order to create revenue. "Kids" that max out their credit cards dont hurt the economy, they hurt the banks and credit companies. We WANT people to spend money. If they dont have the money, its the credit companies and bank's fault for lending it in the first place.

When they hurt the banks and credit companies, aren't banks and credit companies hurt the economy? Think about it.

True, there's nothing wrong with kids pursuing their hobbies. Spending money on cars is much better than on cigarettes or drugs or alcohol but to spend something that you can't afford by maxing out your credit card is not a way to go. What happen to the responsible way of save up and then spend money? Or if you need to borrow money from credit card, have a plan to pay everything back.

Banks can offer credit cards with high credit line, but at the end of the day how can it be the bank's fault when it is actually the person who maxs out the card and can't pay back. What I'm saying is, credit card should be used wisely. I've seen too many of my friends pursuit their hobbies like drifting or fixing up cars irresponsibly with their credit cards and they end up paying for it the rest of their lives.

Save money, then spend it on drifting. If you need to use the credit card, make sure you have a plan to pay it back. The 30% apr will only haunt you in the end!

[YOitzJDM]

Looks like Adam Andretti is practicing his drifting...

http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php...adam-andretti/

Just completing three drifting runs around cones set up in a circle, he got a little wide while exiting the turn and slammed the new Ram sideways into a curb. The wheel/axle/brake was sheered completely off the Ram and also damaged the quarter panel on the bed!

hmmm...

[DOWNCOME 101]

What's the big deal?

Whats the big deal about this Andretti guy? Yeah he doesn't drift, but I mean he comes from a huge background in racing and beyond that he's no different than that other D1 judge from Japan, Suzuka or Suzuki...the guy from all the JDM Option videos.

I mean even Formula D has that one dude...Ken Takahashi who came from Motorex (FAIL) Best Motoring (FAIL), threw some driving events (where did those even go?...FAIL) and he's a judge. What makes him an expert? I guess Formula D has enough bullsh!t going around about their judging.

Whatever, I can't wait for D1 because Andretti or not it's at F'ING Anaheim Stadium and not at Irwindale (Thank GOD!). I already bought my tickets. The Japanese dudes are coming over and all of our local boys get to beat on them again (I Hope).

[akuma S14]

My daddy can beat up your daddy!

At least Ken has been around the drift industry since it began. He does actually know a thing or two about drifting. He can at least build a drift car.... crap at least he knows that kind of car is out there drifting.

[Cavi Mike]

Yeah he doesn't drift, but I mean he comes from a huge background in racing and beyond that he's no different than that other D1 judge from Japan, Suzuka or Suzuki...the guy from all the JDM Option videos.

LOLWUT? D1 judges in Japan ARE drifters and please don't tell me the "guy from all the JDM Option videos" you're talking about is Ken Nomura because he's one of Japans most renowned drifters and underground racers. He's even going to be here at these events as a driver. Maybe you should do a little more fact-checking next time.

[MonkeySlide]

LOLWUT? D1 judges in Japan ARE drifters and please don't tell me the "guy from all the JDM Option videos" you're talking about is Ken Nomura because he's one of Japans most renowned drifters and underground racers. He's even going to be here at these events as a driver. Maybe you should do a little more fact-checking next time.

He was talking about Manabu Suzuki

[DOWNCOME 101]

L ohhhh....L

Thank you Monkey, Manabu Suzuki is correct, just double checked to make sure I did "do a little more fact-checking"...I think the last name was the only part I Effed.
Anyways, I think since drifting has been around in the US for about 5 odd years on any large scale, everyone is a beginner. So I would imagine that any driver from any series, Indy or Nascar, who got to chill with the OG Japanese D1 judges and learn from them has a better chance at getting judging down than some dude who's never been in a professional car from FD.
Is Toshi coming back, the guy from Apex with the spikey hair that announced at the oldschool D1s? He was a pretty good announcer.

[akuma S14]

toshi, the man behind Apex'i USA.... Toshi is a good announcer that is true.

Too bad you just swing from D1's nuts....Maybe if you had worked with them in the USA or ever heard how the run things from a management perspective you might have second thoughts.

I always appreciate the talent of the drivers in D1 Japan and many are my friends but I will never appreciate D1 as an organization ever again.

[ALI's DRIFT GARAGE]

Yo Terry, I think you're talking about people like me!

First of all this thread started as an Andretti judging for D1 announcement, we should go back to that, D1 and FD are two separate organizations with unique properties. And of course people are going to feel differently, its like talking apples and oranges.

As far as I go, I have actually been there and done that. And I'm doing it again! I'm back at D1 and it's definitely not the same show. For the first time in history D1 Japan has sold licensing for the D1 Grand Prix USA. In case you don't know, that has never happened since the first D1 event that was brought over. For those that know me in this industry I think that they can vouch for me in that I would likely be the last person looking to get burned again. There is a reason I'm here now full time.

In regards to a few issues:

Andretti will have to prove himself like anyone else and we look forward to him doing so.

The box will give a quantifiable value to certain parameters, of course the final say will be on the judges. But for the first time there will be some facts to back the judge's call. So Daijiro, Tsuchiya, Manabu and Andretti will have something beyond just their personal call and instant replay to factor into the final say. However we will all see come May 2nd!

No, I don't believe Toshi will be back, but you can never say never to anything.

I have heard Andretti has been practicing since the Ram incident

I am glad to see everyone has a lot of emotion tied to D1 personally, it does the same for me, a lot of us have a huge soft spot for D1. I will work hard to help D1 grow in the USA as I have in the past.

Are you still doing drifting events in China?