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That analogy is just ridiculous. The market did decide and iPhones out number Android phones 3 to one, in the US. Android is an operating system that has many competing device manufacturers while Apple makes it's own OS and devices. If you compare all apple iOS devices (iPod touch, iPhone, iPad), the apps available and the number of users and developers world wide, the comparison with Google Android is a joke.Originally posted by SSmith View PostAll the D1 haters just chill a bit.. let it all play out. After all it's a free market, let D1 do what they want. If they deliver, that's good, fans have another option to entertain themselves. If they don't, fans still have another option to watch drifting.
FD fan boys are like Apple telling Android what they can or can't do with their phones. Just look how scared Apple is toward the competition when HTC release the Android phones. Let the market decide which series is better and let each series strive to be better than the other so it'll be good for the fans who pay to go see these events.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20006889-37.html
I do like the kickstand on the Evo 4G though. I suppose it makes for easy wan@#$g
Back to the subject. I'm with Slapshotnerd, @#$@ D1.Last edited by my 1 88 u; 06-12-2010, 10:02 PM.
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The Vegas event they had a alot of drivers entering at 100+mph.
I don't like the claim for both companies in general. Especially at sonoma when the course goes from 100 to 30mph in seconds. But I guess its just marketing.
SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!!!
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Claiming 100 mph speeds at a track once a year where more than 1 driver DOES actually hit 100 mph isn't smoke and mirrors.Originally posted by blaze1 View PostFD makes a similar claim about sonoma from time to time.
let's look at D1's claim again:
D1 Grand Prix eventSSSSSS (plural) are held as adrenaline packed, tire smoked filled weekendSSSSSS (plural) with wheel to wheel, head-to-head matchEEESSSSS (matches is plural and head-to-head implies both cars are at the claimed speeds) between drivers drifting inches apart at speeds in excess of 120mph (plural).
All I ask is when this has ever been the case, especially in the US.
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Captain Insano said:
What a joke. These guys released a schedule and don't even have their dates booked. I called Irwindale Speedway and they have no date booked for them. Same *** different people. How could another group get suckered by D1? Fail
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If there's an event in LA, and I have a client who needs my work,I will go. I was supposedly "blackballed" from D1 in '07, but I've been to every event in LA since.Originally posted by OldSkool510 View PostJust wondering......Will Blaze and Slapshot be at D1's event?
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2006 D1 Vegas had quite a few US drivers such as Foust JR and Fors (no conflicting schedual)
2007 D1 vegas was on the same weekend as seattle (conflicting schedule) and saw drivers like JTP, Fixmer, and Russakoff and they are not slouches
2007 D1 NJ the whole Falken team showed up
Maybe that was from your point of view, that was like my 4th drift event ever, it was cold and windy and the last thing that happened that whole 2 days race weekend. If people didn't like it they could have packed it in but they stayed. That was the first time a American driver beat a Japanese (Fors and Rhys), so in its own right it was pretty iconic. And if I'm not mistaken the whole event was like 5 hours long, from top 32 to the finals. Ahead of its time.2004 – Feb race is Japanese points race (before FD starts inaugural season), Dec race is exhibition @ JGTC race – boring track, decent crowd (due largely to the JGTC race not D1). nothing exciting.
Originally posted by OldSkool510 View Post
btw I liked Blaze much more before he went "HOLLYWOOD" on us and exposed himself to the world. Now he schmoozing and wining and dining with the big boys. Maybe he will be the next "boy toy" of the Drift Avengers. lol Big props to Blaze1.
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Ha nothing much has changed, just watching what I say a little bit more and trying not to come off like a 16 year boy even though I've been on this forum for that long lol.
This is D1GPs last shot for me, if they cant get this done they have lost a loyal fan for ever.
GAME OVERLast edited by Bebop; 06-11-2010, 12:47 PM.
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Just wondering......Will Blaze and Slapshot be at D1's event?
btw I liked Blaze much more before he went "HOLLYWOOD" on us and exposed himself to the world. Now he schmoozing and wining and dining with the big boys. Maybe he will be the next "boy toy" of the Drift Avengers. lol Big props to Blaze1.
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D1GP's history in the US:
2003 – Slipstream Global (aka Jim and Ryan from FD) kick *Censored**Censored**Censored* at producing the first ever pro drifting competition in the US, and D1 Japan thanks them by firing them. They go on to start FD which runs a full schedule in 2004 and takes off as a huge success. Thanks to D1GP for being so short-sided!
2004 – Feb race is Japanese points race (before FD starts inaugural season), Dec race is exhibition @ JGTC race – boring track, decent crowd (due largely to the JGTC race not D1). nothing exciting.
2005 – March event was JDM points event, first All star event at Irwindale and JR kicks *Censored**Censored**Censored*.
2006 – March event was JDM points event, Vegas happens but hardly any US drivers (schedule conflict with FD Seattle), Irwindale exhibition happens with international drivers who feel they get raw end of the deal (Damien Mulvey, Phil Morrison, Paul Vlasblom).
At this point, D1 feels they are unstoppable, and tries to take over the US market by force and fires their entire US staff. Hideo briefly goes to NOPI but that doesn’t work out either. D1GB organizers are tired of D1GP’s crap and form EDC.
2007 – Full US series schedule announced. March Irwindale event is cancelled due to J drivers not having cars ready, June Altamont event is cancelled, only NJ, Vegas (very few US drivers attend), and “all star” race happened, they are all exhibitions. JR wins the all star race again. US staff fired again.
2008 – US series was proposed for a second season in November 2007, but cancelled in February 2008. All star race announced for November 1 week after Red bull, that event gets cancelled too. no race in USA. D1 should have stopped right here.
2009 – Driven Events takes over US promotions, full schedule announced, actually happened, “biggest drifting build in history” is a lie, TV deal never happened as promised, judge was replaced halfway thru season, 2 teams fined (drift avengers / team orange) due to conduct but $0 collected and both teams quit, Ross Petty and Pat Mordaunt are only FD top 16 drivers who compete. Driven Events seperates from D1GP Japan, claims that they are impossible to work with, and some of the same team starts XDC.
2010 – big things promised…. will we actually see it?
the last 3 years here in the US have been a huge bomb for D1GP. Everybody who has worked for D1GP in the US has been canned at some point. I hope this new group doesn’t think that they are special… they’re just the only idiots who still have faith in the brand name (or are oblivious to all the previous fallouts).
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FD vs D1 with FD rules FD will own all because none of there drivers have any type of FD tandem experience.Originally posted by OldSkool510 View PostOrganization wise, FD owns D1 in the states. Driver wise, it would be a dumb move for FD to pit its drivers against D1's. D1's lineup is much too strong for FD.
I'm all for D1 returning to the STATES. Instead of a series,
D1 should just return as an exhibition, a la Cirque de Soleil. Calling it a series with only 6 J drivers is not a series at all.
D1 vs FD with D1 rules, I think FD has a chance because most drivers have driven D1gp at some time or another
bold words.You may have started the game 10 years ago, but the Americans have perfected your game.
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^ Thats different, the android actually works. D1 USA pretty much failed on every one of their claims.
FD lives up to everything they say they are going to do. I am still wondering where the FOX coverage D1 USA was touting as the "biggest media deal in drifting history" is. Just like Anaheim was "the biggest track buildout in drifting history" when it was obviously much smaller than Redbull's track. FD has never even made such bold claims like that much less failed to live up to them as D1 has.
If D1 hadn't gotten everybody's hopes up for a good professional series 3 years in a row now I would be happy that the series is being put on but damn they need to get off this fail curve quick and throw good events. Don't claim you are number 1 and then expect people to forgive you when you can't deliver.
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All the D1 haters just chill a bit.. let it all play out. After all it's a free market, let D1 do what they want. If they deliver, that's good, fans have another option to entertain themselves. If they don't, fans still have another option to watch drifting.
FD fan boys are like Apple telling Android what they can or can't do with their phones. Just look how scared Apple is toward the competition when HTC release the Android phones. Let the market decide which series is better and let each series strive to be better than the other so it'll be good for the fans who pay to go see these events.
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From the press release:
Can anyone tell me which tracks on the D1GP schedule have 120mph+ entry speeds? that's 190 km/h.... In order to substantiate this claim, both cars must hit 120mph entry speeds in tandem battles, not just during qualifying. I find that very very hard to believe, especially on any event held on US soil. There's no point in putting a lofty speed number like that in your first press release of the year unless you can make it happen.D1 Grand Prix events are held as adrenaline packed, tire smoked filled weekends with wheel to wheel, head-to-head matches between drivers drifting inches apart at speeds in excess of 120mph.
This sounds like more smoke and mirrors. Prove me wrong.
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