ff drifting?

[Sky_kiD]

No in comparison you dont sound dumb, for one the car they were talking about (mr2) is a MR (Mid engine rear wheel drive)

RR(rear engine rear wheel drive) is something only available on a few cars, the classis VW beetle and eurovan, subaru 360, and is prettymuch not even found on modern vehicles


BUT.. If you realllly are lost, very simple

FF engine in the front, front wheels power car
FR engine in the front, rear wheels power car
MR engine in the middle, usually behind drivers seat, rear wheels power car
RR engine in back, behind rear wheels, rear wheels power car
4WD engine location nonspecific, all wheels power car

[RoadblockTDX]

FF's can drift slightly, but the drift can't be sustained for as long periods of time. With some VERY precise suspension tuning and insane amounts of horsepower FF's can drift. I say they can't because I don't want to put a smile on the face of every honduh homie who thinks he has a drift car (Type R's not included)

[Sky_kiD]

Okay,, one must be made clear


HONDAS DO NOT DRIFT, even if it looks like a drift, if its in a honda, its not a drift ^_^

(no offence to all the honda drivers on here, but i despise rice slides)

[--DriftKing--]

okay then waht do u drive? hypocrite....j/k ff is ff ff drift is all the same im glad taht all the ricers have ff honda and they can infest our beautiful sport

[JonnySlick]

Originally posted by Sky_kiD
is prettymuch not even found on modern vehicles

man you forgot the best example of RR.....porsche! yeah, 911's are RR cars and if i'm not mistaken that's a modern vehicle right? LOL.

j/k

[Sky_kiD]

The older Porches had the engine behind the rear axle, thats true, but the newer ones dont. The reason why they were origionally rr is because they were based on VW beetles

So modern porches are MR

[J-BloodAE86]

Originally posted by Sky_kiD
The older Porches had the engine behind the rear axle, thats true, but the newer ones dont. The reason why they were origionally rr is because they were based on VW beetles

So modern porches are MR

um, i'd have to disagree with that last part, they are considered rr because the engine is pretty much directly above the rear axle, its only mr if the engine is completely in front of the rear axle, for example the fd (and maybe the older ones too) is considered mr because the engine is behind the front axle (though the engine is in front of the driver)

[DriftDaze]

that does make more sense.

[Sky_kiD]

okay, the LITERAL definition is an FF has the engine infront of the front axles, an MR has the engine between the front and rear axles, and a RR has the engine behind the rear axles.

But I dont think theres any specific definition on how far over the axle it has to be before its before/after the axle/spindles. But if that holds true then I think the same can be said about the Plymouth(i think its plymouth) prowler, because the front wheels are so far forwards, but i dont think anyone would consider that an MR.

[JonnySlick]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sky_kiD
The older Porches had the engine behind the rear axle, thats true, but the newer ones dont. The reason why they were origionally rr is because they were based on VW beetles

So modern porches are MR [/QUOTE


ummmm....nope


modern porsche (2000) model 911 GT3 and it's RR.

http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/911gt3.html

and a review on the 2002 911 and it's still RR too.

http://autos.msn.com/vip/jedlicka.aspx?
make=porsche&model=911&src=404

[Sky_kiD]

Blarg my bad, I forgot that the engines on those are so short,cause I was thinking about how the engine looks and i thought for some reason it was longer but thats actually the shift linkage, yeup porches are rr,,

[J-BloodAE86]

Originally posted by Sky_kiD
okay, the LITERAL definition is an FF has the engine infront of the front axles, an MR has the engine between the front and rear axles, and a RR has the engine behind the rear axles.

technically the definition of front engined is infront of OR directly above the front axles, and its the same in the rear

and as for the prowler, though the front wheels are out there pretty far, the engine is still over the front axles, the radiator is set back a couple inches from the grill, so you can see how far forward the engine sits

[J-BloodAE86]

so basically if any part of the engine is over the front axle it is "front engined"

[Sky_kiD]

See Im not sure, do you consider just the block the engine? or the rest too. this is the prowlers engine, and if you can consider an fc mr, then i would guess the prowler would be too

[J-BloodAE86]

thats mostly up to the maker of the car, they get to make the final decision on what it is considered, i read a article on the prowler and it said that they put the radiator and other engine components in front of the front suspension so that they could call it a FR because they though that was more appealing to the public than a MR "hot rod", though most custom rods are acutally MR