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At no point did i say a viper shouldnt be allowed to compete. I said i dont like the viper. I dont like it as a drift car. Its a cool car, but so is the enzo ferrari. But i wouldnt want to see the d1 become about high dollar sports cars. Indeed im much more interested in seeing what vehichles similar to my own can do.
As for the expensivfe FD and S15 d1 cars. Yeah a FD isnt S13 cheap is it? but a used FD, especialy in japan where they had more of them, isnt viper expensive. A used FD may not be cheap, but its not 80 grand. And yeah its race prepared. Probably stripped to the bone. actualy i've seen that FD in a magazine, it is stripped to the bone. So okay, there is a car that maybe cost 15 thousand dollars used american. yeah its expensive compared to a 86 or a s13... so why not start with a brand new 80 thousand dollar viper? theres really not much of a difference between those two are there?
Assuming the tire sponsors who are putting on the events are providing inexpensive tires, relatively speaking, to the teams. Then you could build a totally D1 worthy FD for less then 80 thousand dollars. Anyone who thinks they spent more then that on one FD.. well im having a hard imagining how they could. I can see spending that much in matinence and shipping to america and stuff. but not on the car its self.
But the viper by its self starts at those numbers.
I supose you guys will ask "who cares how much a pro team spends?" i guess i do, i care. I like the idea that a tunning company like japser automotive can become a house hold name among drifting fans, because there drift car was at the d1, twice. I like the idea that smaller shops and tunners can afford, especialy with another sponsor or two, to campiegn a D1 level car. That to me helps the drifting community. The shops sponsoring these cars will build parts for drifting, the more the better. They will sell these parts to drifters to make money for there D1 team. we will have more and better parts availible, probably for cheaper too.
Do you think dodge will have drift spec parts availible for the viper? dodge doesnt even sell the carbon fiber hood, front spoiler, and doors, they run on there awesome SRT4 rally car. (they lost over 600 lbs on that thing) The same could be said about pontiac. I doubt we will see drift spec components for the GTO. <b>Not</b> because these are <b>American</b> companys, but because these are huge companys who dont sell parts to make ends meat. they sell cars. there teams will get money wether they sell parts or not. And most likely wont sell parts, especialy not parts for drifting.
I think some of you guys with camaros and stuff should prefer to see smaller shops stay in and not larger companys. The fact is GM isnt going to sponsor a 10 or 15 year old Camaro to drift. Why not? because they dont sell 10 and 15 year old Camaros. They sell new cars. They will sponsor a new GTO to drift though. Its unfortionate, because if they did choose a older camaro they would develope parts, and if they were a smaller shop sell those parts to camaro drifters. Its just an example to show a point.
alright ill stop rambling now and let some rebuttle
As for the expensivfe FD and S15 d1 cars. Yeah a FD isnt S13 cheap is it? but a used FD, especialy in japan where they had more of them, isnt viper expensive. A used FD may not be cheap, but its not 80 grand. And yeah its race prepared. Probably stripped to the bone. actualy i've seen that FD in a magazine, it is stripped to the bone. So okay, there is a car that maybe cost 15 thousand dollars used american. yeah its expensive compared to a 86 or a s13... so why not start with a brand new 80 thousand dollar viper? theres really not much of a difference between those two are there?
Assuming the tire sponsors who are putting on the events are providing inexpensive tires, relatively speaking, to the teams. Then you could build a totally D1 worthy FD for less then 80 thousand dollars. Anyone who thinks they spent more then that on one FD.. well im having a hard imagining how they could. I can see spending that much in matinence and shipping to america and stuff. but not on the car its self.
But the viper by its self starts at those numbers.
I supose you guys will ask "who cares how much a pro team spends?" i guess i do, i care. I like the idea that a tunning company like japser automotive can become a house hold name among drifting fans, because there drift car was at the d1, twice. I like the idea that smaller shops and tunners can afford, especialy with another sponsor or two, to campiegn a D1 level car. That to me helps the drifting community. The shops sponsoring these cars will build parts for drifting, the more the better. They will sell these parts to drifters to make money for there D1 team. we will have more and better parts availible, probably for cheaper too.
Do you think dodge will have drift spec parts availible for the viper? dodge doesnt even sell the carbon fiber hood, front spoiler, and doors, they run on there awesome SRT4 rally car. (they lost over 600 lbs on that thing) The same could be said about pontiac. I doubt we will see drift spec components for the GTO. <b>Not</b> because these are <b>American</b> companys, but because these are huge companys who dont sell parts to make ends meat. they sell cars. there teams will get money wether they sell parts or not. And most likely wont sell parts, especialy not parts for drifting.
I think some of you guys with camaros and stuff should prefer to see smaller shops stay in and not larger companys. The fact is GM isnt going to sponsor a 10 or 15 year old Camaro to drift. Why not? because they dont sell 10 and 15 year old Camaros. They sell new cars. They will sponsor a new GTO to drift though. Its unfortionate, because if they did choose a older camaro they would develope parts, and if they were a smaller shop sell those parts to camaro drifters. Its just an example to show a point.
alright ill stop rambling now and let some rebuttle
Go jump in with Mike and Jason guys on that Veilside car
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