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yeah, especially on Ebay.
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Yeah, but that Focus rumor is gauranteed bogus... Ford was talking abuot nix-ing the performance focus altogether since SVT's budget had been crimped so much to fund the new Mustang...
Ford's been talking about bringing the RS Focus to the states for years, but nothing ever happens.
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You could do a LOT for $6k!
If snow is an issue where you live, I would STRONGLY suggest a Legacy Turbo. The EJ22T is hands down the strongest Subaru motor ever and can be tuned to crazy HP levels with the stock internals - anything past 18psi you may want to get COBB piston heads though. I drove my Autostick '91 with 3-400 hp for touge, drag, and drift (the torque converter smooths out the power curve a little and is good, for an autostick).
Even if snow isn't an issue the AWD can be very beneficial. For drag, road racing and cruising the grip is unbeatable and because AWD drift cars generally need more hp to power-over you can really build up the engine without exceeding your power control ability (super high hp RWD cars can be tricky to drift with).
You can get a virgin Turbo for $4-5k and a tuned version for $6-7k and they will last you forever.
If you ever decide to convert it to RWD, the STi's VCD will bolt on!
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durnit,
I really wanted to see a RWD focus.
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there was a RWD focus in superstreet not too long ago...like 5 months. as for the legacy, how much is insurance on one...on my parents insurance.legacy's can be nice, i see a red one with gold STi rims on it all the time.they are an all around good car, maybe ill think about that...Comment
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what would i nice legacy with less than 90k on it cost? with or without the turbo. they are nice cars....but so are galant VR4's and T-bird SC'sComment
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Goto the yard and buy the engine/drivetrain out of one of those old Ford Turbo-Coupes. Its the same engine and tranny that came in the Mustang SVO (yes RWD). At my local yard the guy was willing to sell everything from a 85 Turbo-Coupe for $700. Swap all that stuff into your Escort and you'll have a 200hp 2.3ltr inline 4 with a T3 turbo, 5 speed tranny, and RWD. The reason I'm brining this up is because this is something I wanted to do after watching Getaway in Stockholm 2 and watching that Escort Cosworth doing 4 wheel slides. I figgure this is the closest you can get to a Cosworth Escort.Comment
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Not really. That's just a rebadged mitsubishi Starion -- really popular back in the day. As for turbo RWD American cars, check into the early 80's SVO Mustang -- 4 cylinder turbo that was on-par with the V8's...Originally posted by WildSe7en
1987 Chrysler Conquest TSi
turbo, RWD, American....almost unheard of...haha
While I drive a mk3 supra, if I had it to do again, I'd get a mk2 supra. it's basically an AE86 with balls -- and you can drop my year turbo engine in fairly easily (although in stock form it has plenty of power for drift)Comment
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Yea your insurance is cheap now on an Excort. But you get into anything other than the pinnacle of no performance and your insurance gonna shoot through the roof. Not to mention any tickets. First one you get, you are going to cry if you are in a Mustang, Legacy or anything else that comes either with a V8 or a Turbo. Also your parents insurance isn't going to save you because soon as you get caught doing anything illegal, they are probably going to can you from it and then you are up the creek.
Your best best all around is a Corolla if you can find one. Super cheap on insurance, great on gas, cause we all know gas is cheap in the south and we are over 2.00 a gallon so I can only guess what it is on the west coast, and easy to get parts for. Sure it's slow but you are 16, you don't need to be streaking around the countryside in something fast until you get good. Don't matter how much carting experience you have either. Carting translates to the track, not to the street.
Also for your first car, I would not suggest trying to do some radical swap or Front to Rear conversion. You are just wastimg time. If you wanted to do that, you should have started at 14. Now you are 16, all you gonna want to do is drive, not be in the garage spiining wrenches.Comment
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My Legacy Turbo was a 1991 with 114k on the clock (the motor just getting broken in by that time
) and was had for a cool $3k with some minor dings and dents but everything functional. That was probably 4 or 5 years ago though, so a 92 Turbo in great shape would probably cost you something around $4-5k.
There is some mystery surrounding my old Turbo Wagon, since Subaru didn't technically start producing a "Touring Wagon" untill 1992 IIRC, and the VIN's stated that mine was a 1991 even though the body style and Fuji Heavy Industries stickers showed it to be a 1990... It may have been a special case, but it was classified as a regular Legacy wagon in the insurance books. Subarus have a good history with crash ratings and are mostly driven by older, more responsible people (not to mention AWD) so insurance is about as low as you will get for a 16-y-o without getting a CRX HF, EF Civic, Volvo or Saab.
Any Legacy post-93 it going to need to be put on a diet, but that is a lot easier than swapping a motor or something like that. Subaru Motors will run and run and run and then run some more, and tuning them is fairly easy. Another perk to Subarus is that there are Subaru guys EVERYWHERE and quite a few forums dedicated to daily driving AND performance rather than track day cars.
If all you can find is a normal Legacy or Legacy Wagon, it's pretty simple to add a turbo since they were factory equipment. There are a bunch of turbo kits out there (or at least there were 4 years ago) if you can't find a factory turbo and all sorts of different heads will bolt to the 2.2 block found in the 1st and 2nd Gen Legacies. My 350hp whip had a 2.2 Turbo block which came with mega-strong con rods and shot-peened gears which was then mated to the open-deck 2.5 SOHC heads for quicker rev and more low-end torque. Even if you do decide to do a swap, the EJ20 will fit into most anything and the revered EJ22T is still a USDM motor so legal registration with a swap isn't out of the question.
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Ghost is totally right about insurance rates for a turbo or a RWD car with any power - you'll get butt-rammed.
Crazy's idea sounds pretty hot, but for a first car you'd be better stick with something realatively stock.
Good luck with the car hunting!
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I looove my conquest...has awsome power...weight balance is 53/47...comes stock with 16x9 tires Rear
and 16x8 front, and they are extremely rare around here. So you can put some hella rubber down and drop some jaws while doing it ..just my .02 cents...
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What do you mean, there is already a kit like this on the market. I forget the name of the company, but yeah, apparently there is some desire for V8 RWD focuses. *shrugs*Originally posted by mranlet
Yeah, but that Focus rumor is gauranteed bogus...Comment
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I mean factory-produced RWD or AWD Focus, in the US.
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what exactly is a ford turbo coupe?Comment
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