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Hey Everybody:
I hope you don't mind but I've moved a couple of my post to a new Topic cause I thought you all should consider it. If you think this is a dumb topic, let me know and I'll delete it........
This originaly was on a post that the Viper was the main subject.......
originally posted by myself
You might want to read this: http://www.vipercompetitioncoupe.co...s/features.html
and look at the pictures. This aint your Grandfathers Viper......
I guess we all have to ask ourselves, is this what we want the grassroots sport of Drifting to become? I know a bad driver in a great car can't win. God knows Samuel does an awesome job behind the wheel (as he would in any car he'd drive). However, motorsports has a bad habit of allowing it's competitors to spend themselves right out of the sport. Name ANY series and I'll show you how the rules/or lack of them have made it where a great driver that doesn't have a lot of money is forced to the sidelines because he can't make his car a bad-*Censored**Censored**Censored* as a guy with sponsors/personal money, etc.
IMO, one of the cool things about Drifting is that there is only 1 class. Even the D1 cars (as trick as they are) can still be beaten by a guy with some time on his hands and a few good parts in a "street derived" car. I believe Lateral G's Viper was a matter of convenience and lack of time. BUT, if we and the officials of this sport allow "purpose built" racing chassis cars it'll be just a matter of time before some guy (with good driving skills) comes with an unlimited budget and builds the Formula 1 of drift cars. Then where will all of us be with our "street hot rods"?
It's really up to all of us. We need to tell the officials of these events what we want! You've got to speak out! If you've got a ton of cash, go buy yourself a $120,000 Viper or an ex-Trans-AM car. If you're a Regular Joe like me, you better speak now, cause it won't be long until you'll be relegated to the "amateur only" class at your local stadium
parking lot...........
I hope you don't mind but I've moved a couple of my post to a new Topic cause I thought you all should consider it. If you think this is a dumb topic, let me know and I'll delete it........
This originaly was on a post that the Viper was the main subject.......
originally posted by Tsunami
Nissanguy the PVO Competition Coupe isn't the 800hp Carbon-fibered monster you think it is. It's still the stock Viper chassis (no tube frame stuff), and suspension, plus all they did to the motor is put headers and straight exhaust on it plus a cold-air intake. I think it's around 525-550 hp. The body is stock save for the wing and splitter (I dunno if it has widened fenders or not), plus the suspension is stock viper, although I think they may have tweaked the dampening some. They upgraded the brakes and removed the heater and A/C. Inside they gave it a digital dash. That's it. Basically you could make a comp coupe street legal easily. It's basically a spec racer for ALMS and Speed GT.
Nissanguy the PVO Competition Coupe isn't the 800hp Carbon-fibered monster you think it is. It's still the stock Viper chassis (no tube frame stuff), and suspension, plus all they did to the motor is put headers and straight exhaust on it plus a cold-air intake. I think it's around 525-550 hp. The body is stock save for the wing and splitter (I dunno if it has widened fenders or not), plus the suspension is stock viper, although I think they may have tweaked the dampening some. They upgraded the brakes and removed the heater and A/C. Inside they gave it a digital dash. That's it. Basically you could make a comp coupe street legal easily. It's basically a spec racer for ALMS and Speed GT.
You might want to read this: http://www.vipercompetitioncoupe.co...s/features.html
and look at the pictures. This aint your Grandfathers Viper......
I guess we all have to ask ourselves, is this what we want the grassroots sport of Drifting to become? I know a bad driver in a great car can't win. God knows Samuel does an awesome job behind the wheel (as he would in any car he'd drive). However, motorsports has a bad habit of allowing it's competitors to spend themselves right out of the sport. Name ANY series and I'll show you how the rules/or lack of them have made it where a great driver that doesn't have a lot of money is forced to the sidelines because he can't make his car a bad-*Censored**Censored**Censored* as a guy with sponsors/personal money, etc.
IMO, one of the cool things about Drifting is that there is only 1 class. Even the D1 cars (as trick as they are) can still be beaten by a guy with some time on his hands and a few good parts in a "street derived" car. I believe Lateral G's Viper was a matter of convenience and lack of time. BUT, if we and the officials of this sport allow "purpose built" racing chassis cars it'll be just a matter of time before some guy (with good driving skills) comes with an unlimited budget and builds the Formula 1 of drift cars. Then where will all of us be with our "street hot rods"?
It's really up to all of us. We need to tell the officials of these events what we want! You've got to speak out! If you've got a ton of cash, go buy yourself a $120,000 Viper or an ex-Trans-AM car. If you're a Regular Joe like me, you better speak now, cause it won't be long until you'll be relegated to the "amateur only" class at your local stadium
parking lot...........
originally posted by noobster
hey sam-
as you know, motorsports is a business. drifting is now a business.
almost every motorsport requires sponsors in order to elevate the level of competition. sponsors bring cash. drivers and teams need cash to be competitive. competitive, technologically advanced race cars bring media and put seats in the stands. media sells advertising. butts in the seats sells merchandise and tix sales.
what does this do to the grassroots racer? well, do grassroots racers even "care" about competition or do they just want to drift? you have 2 schools of thought. one school is a purist who just wants to keep the sport underground. 2nd school wants to drift at events but probably isn't as concerned about winning rather just having fun and competing.
the 2nd school of racers will always have their grassroots events. always. there are tons of series out there that support grassroots racers.
however, since drifting is a sport that crossesover many different age groups and audiences, the sport is going to get bigger and bigger. this will create "pro" series for the highest level of competition AND technologically advanced cars.
we just happen to be involved in the sport before the "pro" series is created. but as you can see, it appears that we're getting closer and closer to that point. a "pro" series is going to emerge and it will be the "F1" of drift series for the top racers and top teams. in my opinion, this is the reality of it.
hey sam-
as you know, motorsports is a business. drifting is now a business.
almost every motorsport requires sponsors in order to elevate the level of competition. sponsors bring cash. drivers and teams need cash to be competitive. competitive, technologically advanced race cars bring media and put seats in the stands. media sells advertising. butts in the seats sells merchandise and tix sales.
what does this do to the grassroots racer? well, do grassroots racers even "care" about competition or do they just want to drift? you have 2 schools of thought. one school is a purist who just wants to keep the sport underground. 2nd school wants to drift at events but probably isn't as concerned about winning rather just having fun and competing.
the 2nd school of racers will always have their grassroots events. always. there are tons of series out there that support grassroots racers.
however, since drifting is a sport that crossesover many different age groups and audiences, the sport is going to get bigger and bigger. this will create "pro" series for the highest level of competition AND technologically advanced cars.
we just happen to be involved in the sport before the "pro" series is created. but as you can see, it appears that we're getting closer and closer to that point. a "pro" series is going to emerge and it will be the "F1" of drift series for the top racers and top teams. in my opinion, this is the reality of it.
, but if those with the authority keep the rules tight, a driver would be able to compete in a car that’s performance has improved over time with his or her skills……..
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