Formula D - Heading the Wrong Way?

[my 1 88 u]

Originally posted by jaydm180sx
Good points everyone, but my team and I arent just sitting on our butts typing and wishing that we were drifters. Were trying to make that dream into a reality.

We hold weekly events in our city for 240sx enthusists and make bi-weekly runs up to the mtn. to practice. I feel that we have made attempts to contact the right people to to get sponsorship and try to get a localized event. But we are just starting out and understand that It will take a little time.

http://www.drifting.com/forums/showt...2082#post92082

I contact Road Atlanta monthly, speak regularly with tuning shops such as Tiger Racing, Finish Line Auto, NOPI's warehouse, Car Tech, and post on numerous forums in hopes of creating events. Next week I plan to contact Atlanta Motor Speedway, and the Georgia Dome for usage of their parking lot. Eventually we will succeed with or without help because we love drifting.

The biggest kick in the nuts is that we are not allowed to use the same course that you guys rocked back at Drift Atlanta.

[NHDrifter]

Yo Alex thanks for the kick in the a$$ i needed it...im gonna see what i can do to hold a drift event in southern NH somewhere..but i think these other guys get mad at you for not showing up becuase they know at the site of you more people will come to the event...P.S wanna tell me how you turboed the AE86???

[swifty949]

well said alex,

it's basically put up or shut up. If you dont like the way things are run, do something about it on your own, start up your own series. Personally, Im happy there is a series devoted to Drifting. Something is better than nothing.

Drag racing is big enough to have multiple series, why not drifting?

paid or not, the drivers skill is what makes you a pro. Hell Minardi F1 team have paying drivers. Yet thier pro, because they hold an F1 liscense.

[AlexPfeiffer]

Hell, all of us wish we could go on tour and do events around the country but we still have jobs and have to pay bills. Thats why we need formula D to promote as much as they can to as many different types. We need to get to the point that we can go to all the different towns and put on drift schools with a few demo's inbetween.

We still need places to go where there are groups of drivers with a legal venue. So the first step is to get your friends together and find someplace legal to run. If you find a place other than a track, contact drift association as they may beable to help with that part of it.

[mikespeed95]

Originally posted by nitroboy24
In an older article a wise drifter said, "Soon they are going to have drifting in the x-games", a friend said that would be cool "No that would be f'ing g*y..".

Close. They have put the x-games into drifting.

The add is rediculous, looks like something a loser who works at Super Street would design Like you guys have said, if I go to a drift event I want to see cars going sidewayz. I do not want to see Honda Civics with E46 M3 front end conversions, 22" rims, LED Antenna lights, LCD monitors mounted on their NOS bottles, more chrome then you see would see in a complete season of Cribs or Riding with FMF, and scantily clad women..Well, scratch the scantily clad women part

But god, I don't want to see the ricers at my school with their fwd honda turds with primer gray body kits, spoilers that make 747's wince, fart cans that make listening to a jack hammer all day seem like fun, and all the other stereo, bling crap that goes along with it attending a drift event. I want to see AE86's with smashed up rattle-can black body panels, Silvias of all years, RX7's, your occasional GTO, and a rwd skyline every here and there.

If FD comes to my town (which they probablly never will) I would go, shake off the rice, and watch some drifting. Oh yeah, and if I saw Ricki Chan I would give him a swift kick in the nuts..

sorry, but its obvious you never been to a FD show, all the show cars are in very presentable condition, ive yet to see a ricer with the" under construction" excuse for why his car is a total pos. while i dont like the billet fmic grilles, most the cars at tx, and cali i thought were very nice, and i could respect the time and money put into them, becuase they were done right.

[mikespeed95]

Originally posted by nasty nate 7
all i can say is we'll wait for formula d to happen and see what happens from then on. i cant give you my honest opinion yet cuz i havent been to the event yet so i shall wait and see for my own eyes because what i see in the ads of formula d, it looks pretty sad taht most of the ad is covered with hot import night girls, djs, celebs, and 300 show cars with a SIDE of drifting... thats the message that im getting if i was some random guy who never thought what drifting is. i dont think thats the right publicizing or promotion that "sport of drifting" deserves.

you qill quickly learn not to read a book by its cover. go to the event.

[nissanguy_24]

Originally posted by mikespeed95
you qill quickly learn not to read a book by its cover. go to the event.

And the rest of the country who doesnt go to the event? but only knows about drifting by these flyers or covers if you will?

[AlexPfeiffer]

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Originally posted by nasty nate 7
all i can say is we'll wait for formula d to happen and see what happens from then on. i cant give you my honest opinion yet cuz i havent been to the event yet so i shall wait and see for my own eyes because what i see in the ads of formula d, it looks pretty sad taht most of the ad is covered with hot import night girls, djs, celebs, and 300 show cars with a SIDE of drifting... thats the message that im getting if i was some random guy who never thought what drifting is. i dont think thats the right publicizing or promotion that "sport of drifting" deserves.



To me it seems logical to promote the car show, hot import night style because it is already popular and has a big fan base. At the events, the drifting is the show, when something is going on on track, allmost everyone is track side except for the unfortunate few who have to watch over their booths.

[Craftsman]

Ahh, let's get this back on topic...

I'm all for all the current Formula D drivers being full time drivers rather than weekend warriors. As Alex always says, That $%*# costs too much.

These drifting events are very cool. I personally enjoy an illegal drift sans police. Drifting streets are more interesting to me. I don't care about spectators or anything else of that sort, I enjoy a perfect slide. (this is a fictional story and not words from my mouth)

Formula D is bringing attention to drifting and helping people who put these events together get the attention and sponsers they need. I like the current direction. Or do I just like the girls?

Matt.

(P.S. Mike... He does goto Fomula D events. Robert is a cool guy. He just doesn't agree with you. )

[mikespeed95]

i was workign a booth at fd houston for dailydrifter, or i started working it, when there was drifting there was no point to working it, the car show was merely an inside a/c break room with entertainment for the 30 minute periods for drivers meetings / breaks etc for the drifting.

[my 1 88 u]

The same billy bob joe nascar fan who runs a local track is the same person that lets NOPI nationals into Atlanta Motor Speedway, while APC/Drift Xtreme rock the parking lot. If they see the formula d flyer they wont turn it away because they see money. Naked biaches = money, car shows = money, celebs = money, big name sponsers = money. The only problem I see is that they are more interested in big events that bring in alot of money all at once instead of a series of events that bring in slow but steady money.

[Craftsman]

Originally posted by AlexPfeiffer
To me it seems logical to promote the car show, hot import night style because it is already popular and has a big fan base. At the events, the drifting is the show, when something is going on on track, allmost everyone is track side except for the unfortunate few who have to watch over their booths.

Alex is right BTW... This is true. Formula D in Houston was where I got glued to the track and the pits. I couldn't leave the track. I said to myself, Showcars suck anyways... The models are great though. The ones to approach are the ones that are soo hot that all the other guys are scared to talk with. Then you go up to them and say, "Hi my name is Matt. What's yours?"

Matt.

[AlexPfeiffer]

my 1 88 u, your right that they mainly care about just holding $$$ events. But they were young too once and used to fu.ck around like we do. Talk to them, go to the track and have a meeting with them, phone calls dont work. You should try to apeal to their younger side when they started and show that you have potential to put on a big event for them if you can bring up a few of the local guys to have a couple practice days so they can beat on those cali *Censored**Censored**Censored*s. Trust me, if you put it that way, they may listen for at least long enough to think about it. Dont ask for anything big like the track formula d ran on but just a skid pad or something. They are very protective of their tracks and you have to respect that when you talk to them.

[UF31Leopard]

off the subject but how bout an intermission from the topic. rest you fingers from typing and enjoy this g a y vid of me driving ha ha ha....

http://hometown.aol.com/kiddorifto/superkid.mpg

[Ghost of Duluth]

It all boiuls down to this, if you don't like the show, don't go see it. This debate has basically turned into who does what, where and why. Mix in some stuff about girls being whores, (and watch your mouth Spock, my GF's bathing suit is more skimpy than the suff they wear and she strips, she isn't a whore), and you got what we have now, nothing. No one is any nearer to solving this thread or getting to the bottom of it than we were at the beginning. Everyone in this thread at one time or another has made some wonderful points. Probably the best one by CrazyHawaiian. Those words made me step back and really think about things. Thank you.

Guys, this isn't our series. We don't participate in it, we don't organize it and we don't scribble out the paychecks at the end of it. We only go to see it. Our concerns have been aired and they have been addressed. They have not only been addressed by the drivers that we have here who represent the sport, but they have been addressed by the director of the series himself. It has been hounded and beaten on for 15 pages and there is no end in sight.

Alex has one of the other good points that I have seen and it also made me step back and re-evaluate my idea of what the sport should be. I also had a long talk with him and that also spurred some thought. People, it is up to us, and us alone, to make Drifting popular on our own terms. It is up to us to open peoples eyes to what the sport is about. The way Drifting will grow is the way we present it to people. If you want something done, do it yourself.

To the 2nd racing guys, you guy's are possibly in one of the best places in the country right now for this to blossom. If no one is giving you the time of day, contact me and let's work together. I will actually be in Conyers on Saturday at my brothers shop, PM me and I will give you my #, maybe you guys can come out and we can chat. We can work on a better way of talking to them. Anyone else that needs any help talking to track owners, contact me and let's all try to work towards a primary goal. In the business's I have done, I have worked with numerous people and have had to develope some mad conversational skills so I will be happy to work with anyone of you in trying to get events organized. Let's make a better effort.

The time for an underground movement is over. Point blank, the sport is out there, people know what it is but 90% of them don't understand it. It's up to us to explain it to them. TV and now in the very near future,movies, will have alot more people knowing what Drifting is. If we don't have something even semi firm in place for the Grassroots scene, we are going to have people wiping out on the streets and getting looney because there is no where else for them to go. That pisses me off. We can sit here and run our fingers till they bleed but in the end, if there are no events, we have accomplished nothing. Not a damm thing.

So now the offer is on the table, PM me, I am open to helping any of you try to organize your own events. Let's work together on this because I am new to it as is everyone else but with all of us working together, how can we fail? I don't see a way. There are too many smart people here to let that happen. The time has come for us to put up or shut up. I'd rather keep talking myself. How bout you?