Well said Sliderice...ask yourself this...are u in it for the exposure, money, or thrill of driving? Everyone will have their own reasons to like the sport, but be honest with yourself...which one of these three are u in it for?
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All of your comments are very good and correct in some aspects. As for APC, what they meen to you or how you percieve them is your buisness. We as a team need more than just tires. We have tire offers everyday, But that dont get us from Japan to you. And what has APC done to the sport, Nothing but bring exposer, Yes they use our images to sell parts. Like APex Killer said if Masengil wanted to sponsor us Id have a doush bottle up my a$$ for the right amount of money. And lets be honest here we aint livin like rockstars either. We ride economy, Stay in cheep hotels, and eat cup noodle. This all comes out of our pay, sometimes we break even and have nothing left over. If some sponsore wants to step up PLEASE send me a PM. Your also right about the parts, There first adds showed rice crap, But they needed to fill there add, it couldnt just be us and no product. They are building and desighning true drift stuff as well as importing from Japan. You will see this in future adds. They need to sell product to pay us right.
Now for the GRASS ROOT movement when was this how can you consider something that was already comercialised in Japan a GRASS ROOTs movement there. Do you honestly think that if no one did anything there to propmote the sport that it would stay underground. If there is a way for Japanese componays to market in another country they will. And not one person here said anything about the other sponsors involved, do you think they are doing this for the sport of it, HELL no bottom line what will the books look like at the end of the quarter. Lets see how this works. Yokohama sells tires, They sell tires for rice, they sell tires for drift, They sponsore rice they, sponsore drift, No conection no hate why do you hate on APC. And in closing APC didnt have sh't to do with the rice here in Japan. Japan saw what and how it went in the states and copied it like everything else. If you want to know who started the rice in Japan it was me. This is sad but true. I built the first Civic coupe I riced the hell out of it. Everybody here said it wouldnt sell, They went VIP VAN and I stayed rice. 4 years latter and every body is sellin rice and chokin on there words. Same with air suspension I built the first bolt on Honda kit undisputed over here they said it wouldnt sell, now I compete for my share of the market with 30 odd companys. And drift is the same over here as well. Do you know how many body kits get knocked off over here. Drift has its bandwagon here as well and it was here way before you all new what it was.
Now back to the topic. How is formula D going to fuk up drifting in the states when they are only trying to make it more accesible to you.
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Originally posted by DRIFTone
man do you sell canover suspension? cus if so i met you in TAS 2001! lol. english guy doing some work with/for veilside at the time. forgot ur name! sorry! brian was it?
they are crap and have nothing to do with Veilside.
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Just becasue APC has money to throw around, to drift and rice doesnt justify them as a company. They try to put an image with thier parts and marketing campaign so that when you think APC you think hard blinged out rice. They are not there to do nething but to cash in on something thats popular, they could care less about the sport and the art of drifting. Shure they have gotten exposure for drifting but that is not nessecarily a good thing and they are promotting it to RICE as RICE thats part of the problem, not the way drifting needs to go, I personally would tell them to take a hike if they wanted to sponsor me. I personally dont want drifting to have alot of idiots who are wanna be gangsters trying to be all hard, I want it to stay with true enthusiasts who do it for the love of it not to be "trendy".
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Originally posted by Dilandu
Just becasue APC has money to throw around, to drift and rice doesnt justify them as a company. They try to put an image with thier parts and marketing campaign so that when you think APC you think hard blinged out rice. They are not there to do nething but to cash in on something thats popular, they could care less about the sport and the art of drifting. Shure they have gotten exposure for drifting but that is not nessecarily a good thing and they are promotting it to RICE as RICE thats part of the problem, not the way drifting needs to go, I personally would tell them to take a hike if they wanted to sponsor me. I personally dont want drifting to have alot of idiots who are wanna be gangsters trying to be all hard, I want it to stay with true enthusiasts who do it for the love of it not to be "trendy".
Maybe Ill get a crack dealer to sponsor us and they can sell drift crack.
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Originally posted by Dilandu
Just becasue APC has money to throw around, to drift and rice doesnt justify them as a company. They try to put an image with thier parts and marketing campaign so that when you think APC you think hard blinged out rice. They are not there to do nething but to cash in on something thats popular, they could care less about the sport and the art of drifting. Shure they have gotten exposure for drifting but that is not nessecarily a good thing and they are promotting it to RICE as RICE thats part of the problem, not the way drifting needs to go, I personally would tell them to take a hike if they wanted to sponsor me. I personally dont want drifting to have alot of idiots who are wanna be gangsters trying to be all hard, I want it to stay with true enthusiasts who do it for the love of it not to be "trendy".
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So why do you post here. Isnt that trendy, isnt that taking away from the underground grass roots. Take a look at what your saying. And WTF is APC doing that nobody else is get off you high horse and you "gangsta" hate for APC. Every body involved is in it for the same god damn thing you all talk SH'T about APC what about MATRIX same fukin thing. Go back to the hills and stay off the forum if you dont like whats going on here.
Maybe Ill get a crack dealer to sponsor us and they can sell drift crack.
i hear you on that one DriftX,i totally agree everyone just starts trashing on companines that have never been to big indrifting or and the street racing scene
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Originally posted by driftxtreem
Maybe Ill get a crack dealer to sponsor us and they can sell drift crack.
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Originally posted by J-BloodAE86
GOOD IDEA. id be better than fcking APC sh!t. APC is the very fcking definition of rice. the product that they became known for is altezza lights for g-dsakes. get that sh!t outa the drift scene. but you wont do that because its all about the money isn't it...
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So why do you post here. Isnt that trendy, isnt that taking away from the underground grass roots. Take a look at what your saying. And WTF is APC doing that nobody else is get off you high horse and you "gangsta" hate for APC. Every body involved is in it for the same god damn thing you all talk SH'T about APC what about MATRIX same fukin thing. Go back to the hills and stay off the forum if you dont like whats going on here.
I have no problem with them throwing money at drifting I even said before that it takes $$ to do the *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* that needs to be done, but I dont think that the exposure that APC gives drifting is positive if you take there money and do things your way then that is fine. Go ahead and use their money I just hope youre not puttin there parts on your car.
I post here because I love drifting and I like to meet like minded people and alot of people here enjoy the grassroots aspect of drifting so dont think that you are almighty because your bringing drifting to the masses not everyone is gonna love you for it. and Im not saying I hate you for it just sayin.......
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