A place that is open for drifting all day everyday. Road Atlanta paved a horseshoe for 2004 round 1 FD and the public has not been able to touch it since. Not even Tiger Racings Sam and A, or Toyo tires Tony Shultz. Hell we cant even use there pad for events.
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We run Buttonwillow East loop quite often. It's a matter of getting a group of people and do it. It might be far away (Buttonwillow is 3 hours from my house) but you won't mind if you really love drifting. You can't just sit there and expect a drift course to pop up in your backyard!!Hubert Young
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I dont think there is such a thing as a "drift track" per say, but I do think that American roadracing courses are designed a little different than the courses they use to drift in Japan. And I'm not talking about the facilities, but more the way the track is laid out. Some of the courses that they use in Japan are much more technical IMO. Now I dont know if they designed it that way specifically for drifting, but thats just my observation.
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Originally posted by motdyn_s14
We run Buttonwillow East loop quite often. It's a matter of getting a group of people and do it. It might be far away (Buttonwillow is 3 hours from my house) but you won't mind if you really love drifting. You can't just sit there and expect a drift course to pop up in your backyard!!
I have gone to Buttonwillow alone this year about, 17-18 times.
Its about 2-3 hours away from me.
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Hmmm in my opinion...
drifting on road tracks that have wide lans would be ideal for novice drifters (that want to move up from wide parking lots and such), giving them more more room for error/corrections and also learn better lines and angles to setup the drift going into/out of the turn. Anyone with gran turismo 3 and see that example, such as letting the computer run the first lap, and using the comps line, using techniques such as weight transfer/locking up the rear/etc so the car would enter and exit at a angle to setup for the next turn. Even though GT is a game is a not a best example, it is more of a simulator then an arcade with the tracks similar to real life tracks, as some actuall JGTC drivers practice with it. But with tracks that would let you go in at a high speed to drift, I think that would have more of a dangerous out come to the car and driver if there were driver error or car problems. I know that its all about driver skill and/or preference. But not everyone is confident or willing to go that fast just to carry the drift for longer. Now with some tracks there were "designed" for drifting, such as Sekia hills, there are hardly and straights, and the main one is is just get enough speed to carry the car throught the first long turn. Of course if you take a look at the videos on rsr's site,
http://www.rs-r.co.jp/drift/2003d1_index.htm you can see what I mean. I don't know about anyone else, but I think america jumped into compeition drift a little too early after we got a taste of it. Drifting started on the touges in japan, iirc then carried over to the iketan series then evolved to D1. I might be skipping some of the steps it took to reach to a status such as d1. But more people should have started just as the Japanese did, on mountain roads that have various turns, but if not the touge itself then a track that "simulates" a mountain road. With a touge, the fear of falling off is present, therefore the driver must do his best to control the car at his/her best in order to not fall into one of the dangers. With such a risk a present, they must get better in order not to fall off or get into any other type of danger. SOOO, take that to fear or danger present and carry that to a track that simulates a moutain road, the learning curve would increase further and faster. Now don't take what I said applies to each and every road course in America or else where. There are road courses that have many technical turns that would also advance the learning curves if per say to drift such as Laguna Seca. Just being able to have access to tracks such as Sekia hills, would further improve American drifters. But you right, no course is going to pop up, but I think if we can reserve sections of tracks that are more technical racing normally, then being able to drift it would enhance skill.
But truly when it comes down to it, its all about Driver preference.
As for myself, I would want to be able to practice on a course that has turn after turn with minimal straights in between that would be long enough to gain speed going into the next turn, and with each of the turns having different lengths, apex('s), entry/exit angles, etx. IMHO, if we want to be as good as the Japs, we should try to atleast learn in the steps they did, and not skip it from "free style" drift in wide parking lots to competitions.Last edited by Phoen_x; 11-12-2004, 05:53 PM.
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As far as I know no no one is out there trying to build a purpose built drift facility. I do know that lots of places that were "off-limits" are now getting easier to access, but only time will tell if someone has the money and the balls to open a drift only facility. I'm sure we would all be stoked if we could get off work go to "Drift Track A" pay 20 bucks for a pit spot and go wild all day and night just like practicing at Elsinore for dirt bike riding or going to LACR for grudge, etc.
That is a dream I think
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Save your comments until G4techTV puts on their first Formula D show. Then talk all you want about it. I am sure G4techTV will welcome any constructive comment.
And G4 has already aired Formula D related content on it's show Sweat. There is another drifitng related show on tonight at 8:30PM PST. It's our show about NFS2...but it's almost 1/2 drifitng. That is not our event coverage...it's a game release party. I think it's clear how much we like drifitng.
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Originally posted by my 1 88 uAnd thats why they laugh at us
1. Who cares if they(whomever they are) laugh at us?
2. There's no money for drifting there yet. It's a few more years for drifting to mature as a fully organized sport. Like NASCAR or IRL.
3. How about you come up with a proposal for investors if you have a good idea. If they like your idea, they will cough up the money for a project such as yours. But the problem with having sponsers is that they will want to see results. Therefore you will come across the problem number two. Unless drifting is super popular, keeping a crowd for drifting will be very difficult.
Again, it's all about supply and demand. I don't think the demand is there for purpose drift facility yet. Supply isn't the issue. If the demand was there, I'm sure plenty of investors would drop their money for this in a heartbeat. This is in no offense to you 188u. This is again just the way I feel about it.
Matt.
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Originally posted by Formula DAs far as I know no no one is out there trying to build a purpose built drift facility. I do know that lots of places that were "off-limits" are now getting easier to access, but only time will tell if someone has the money and the balls to open a drift only facility. I'm sure we would all be stoked if we could get off work go to "Drift Track A" pay 20 bucks for a pit spot and go wild all day and night just like practicing at Elsinore for dirt bike riding or going to LACR for grudge, etc.
That is a dream I think
It has the same momentum as an Action Sport, more so than Drag or Auto-X.
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