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Theres actually a place in Myrtle Beach thats an indoor track with electric carts that go 35+. They don't really have much low end power at all but theres a hairpin at the end of the straight so if you dont touch the brakes at all and you use feint technique then you can get it pretty sideways. A little scary though sometimes because if you understeer, you're going to be introduced to mister wall pretty quickly, and at 35+ in a go cart, it doesn't feel too good.
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Its alot safer than drifting around on streets, and you dont have to pay for new tires
. Id be afraid of the cart flipping at higher speeds.
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Where is this?Originally posted by flyinsideways
yo theres a place in texas and they have a special drift track were they put baby powder all around the track and turn you lose...most people just run into you cuz they think its just to make you lose controle but its pretty easy to drift the whole track...i did it and still beat my whole family when they were driving "normal" its fun tho
And in answer to your question, yes you can drift a kart, but shouldn't you learn basic vehicle control skills at speed first? Karting is a great (and inexpensive, you can get a used shifter kart for $2k or so) way to get into racing.
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Used shifter cart for 2k, or an 86 for 2k...Comment
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Sanctioned race vehicle with trailer for 2k or crappy RWD street car that's not even competitive in a race series for 2k.
Hmmmm....
Wanna learn to drive? Get the kart.
Wanna be a trendy do-rifto boy? Get the Corrola.Comment
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Trendy drifto boy for me, already have one. So what do you call the 240sx?Comment
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I think i would take the corrolla over the used go cart. Sure a corrolla might not necessarily be a contender on the track when its stock but its also a form of transportation. I dont know about you but i'd rather not ride around in a go cart, and besides, IMO i'd rather be drifting than riding around a track on a go cart that can easily be pushed to its limit with a little practice. Im not trying to start a flame or anything, so no offense to any go cart racers.
And BTW im sure a stock corrolla could outrun almost any go cart. Almost. We dont need to hear about anyones uncle jimbos 10 second go cart.Comment
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A cart and an 86 are two different things. A brandy new go cart is a great platform to learn on and can be pushed to the limits without much fear. I think one of the initial problems beginning drifters face is fear. With a cart you learn all the basics: entry speed, apex, exit, etc. Most professional driving schools have cart programs to teach these things. An 86 is well a very old car and would be more difficult to drift than a cart. I would just rent a cart though, unless you plan on logging serious hours in a cart its really worth owning one. Also, registering your 86 for a track event can run up to $130 for one event. Also decent tires will run you more on an 86 than on a go cart. Finally, a car from 1986 will need mroe maintenance than a brandy new go cart.
I say just rent carts. Find a good indoor place or find a carting league and join. Once you prefect the basics the transition to a car will be much more fluid. One last thing: keep drifting off the streets.Comment
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The most you should ever spend on an 86 is about 3k, and for that price there better be close to nothing wrong with it or your beign ripped off.Comment
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Wow... From using go-karts to pratice to the pros and cons of 18 year old cars and go-carts... (which is it btw? K or C?)
I wasn't planning on owning a cart. Just going down to the local go-cart racing thing, where you pay money and drive around a little 'race track' in a go cart. I figured sense they probably had not the greatest of tires because people like to skimp on things to save money, then maybe I might be able to practice throwing it around.
Would anything I learn sliding a cart apply in a car? Or are just the sheer mathematical dimensions and setups so diffrent that it just can't? Even if they can't, yes, I know I can practice line taking, apexing, passing, late breaking, ext ext blah blah blah. I'm going to do that anyways.
I also pride myself on being a quick learner, so I figured it would probably be easier to just go to that track I mentioned and driving theirs. I never considered buying one for 2 reasons. A) I'd rather save my money for my car, because I doubt I'll spend more than a cart is worth there practicing before I feel I've got the basics to the point where I can practice mentally. No, I don't think I'll master them, just get good enough so that I can use it to enhance my car driving. and B) Because I don't know of a place where they let you take your own carts to race, and streets = bad.
So, let me restate my original questions because the answer isn't really there:
Would anything I learn sliding a cart apply in a car?
What is a good price per hour for it to be worth (IE: the place I heard about it 10 minutes, $20, or 40 minutes for $40. Worth it, or should I look for a place that charges per day and commute however far it is to get in massive amoutns of practice)?
Thank you for your help anyways. Even though it is off topic, someone probably had the question anyways about the 86 vs cart, so who knows, Maybe now they know the answer!
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You will be practicing your countersteer so that applies to drifting in a car.
Try to find a special that lets you race for all day for a decent price. Imo, paying $20 and only getting a couple race in is a waste of time. When I go I try to spend like 2 or 3 hours so it is best for me to go on the specials day.Comment
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To the first part, that's entirely up to you.Originally posted by SlidnZC4075
I think i would take the corrolla over the used go cart. Sure a corrolla might not necessarily be a contender on the track when its stock but its also a form of transportation. I dont know about you but i'd rather not ride around in a go cart, and besides, IMO i'd rather be drifting than riding around a track on a go cart that can easily be pushed to its limit with a little practice. Im not trying to start a flame or anything, so no offense to any go cart racers.
And BTW im sure a stock corrolla could outrun almost any go cart. Almost. We dont need to hear about anyones uncle jimbos 10 second go cart.
To the second part, absolutely not. From Wikipedia:
"More serious kart racers in the USA prefer shifter karts, which have a six-speed manual transmission and a clutch to make better use of the more powerful engine. *snip* Typical top speeds of racing karts are around 90 mph (145 km/h) for fixed gear and in excess of 160 mph (260 km/h) for the best shifters."
Since they weigh around 150-250lbs, I highly doubt a 95whp 3200lb car has anything on a shifter kart.
Oh, and the things kids ride around on streets? Those are go-carts with a "c". The vehicles I'm talking about, race karts? That's with the "k".
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wheres this at? baby powder?Originally posted by flyinsideways
yo theres a place in texas and they have a special drift track were they put baby powder all around the track and turn you lose...most people just run into you cuz they think its just to make you lose controle but its pretty easy to drift the whole track...i did it and still beat my whole family when they were driving "normal" its fun tho
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ok ok i exaggerated when i said that they could be easily pushed to they're limits. I'd still rather not pay 2000 dollars for a go kart. Now im going to get back on topic. This thread started out as someone asking if practicing sliding at go cart tracks would help his technique or not and IMO i believe the answer to this is somewhat. Even though alot of things are different between a car and a go cart, its the same concept. Even if things like actual drifting probably cant be imitated at your local go cart track, you can still practice your line and other things like that.Comment
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