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**Wayne** · 03-06-2005, 04:06 PM

um ya if you search, youll find tons of answers for this and ya your thought process about the ka isnt very accurate. just take 5 seconds to search for this and youll find what your looking for.

**SpazmSi** · 03-06-2005, 09:23 PM

yeah still been searching, I only get to look in spurts at work, and I am finding bits and pieces, but I figure people who want to help can.

What I have read so far makes it seem like:

For the 240
With a well running KA24DE you can do a good bit of drifting, but its a waste of money to try and squeeze much hp out of it NA, so I was hoping to get an idea of far it can take you before looking to swap or turbo.

RX7s go back and forth as the best or not so good beginner car.

Still liking the Miata, just scared of dieing in it.

Yeah I know this is a frequently asked topic, but so many peple already waste their breath on here Flamming and Gripeing that I figure I could ask it anyway. Attack or help its all the same.

As far as my thought process on the KA, I can't find a thread where a moderate level driver defends or proves that the KA can take you places? Know any users by Name whose threads I can look up, again I only have short amounts of time that I get to search, so I'd appreciate the Help. I have tried a few combos of search key words and I am coming up *Censored**Censored**Censored*ue answers.

**driftex** · 03-07-2005, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by SpazmSi

don't want one cause:
Will never stumble across any engine related parts in a junkyard if I go JDM. Trannys and Engine $$$$$$
Can't exactly run cheap wheels like 14 or 15s, everything has 'popularity tax' on it.

you can use a lot of 300z parts, like fuel filter, fuel pump, brakes, air flow sensor, plus with stuff on the net jdm parts wouldnt be to hard to come across. could run 300z turbo wheels if your looking for cheap rims, or check out password:jdm, they have some sweet rims that are fairly inexpensive.

**DomLee** · 03-07-2005, 09:05 AM

My opinion would be to get the 240 if you are on a budget. You should be able to get a fairly decent 240 (S13) for a relatively inexpensive price...although given these days...it is slightly more expensive, as opposed to 2+ years ago due to the recent 240's popularity.

The car itself, responds greatly to suspension modifications. Parts are plentiful obviously. But that also means that if you were to get into a accident...replacement parts are easy to come by.

The KA is a decent motor. Lots of torque...makes it fun at relatively low speed. Just because the SR is a higher reving motor...doesn't mean that you'll be drifting at high speed immediately. You'll have to learn to drift at a slower speed first...so the KA makes sense. Make use of the KA first...and learn about the car. Don't let the "motor"...be what keeps you from getting this great car. Cars range from poor condition to good.

The RX-7 (FC) is a great handling car. If you are not afraid of busting out tools to work on a car...then the RX-7 is the car for you. Rotary engines are great in their simplistic design...but it has it's faults. With that, the higher amount of heat that is generated, the lower gas mileage, etc. But the car itself is great. Also responds well to suspension modifications.

Parts are not as plentiful as 240s. Aftermarket support is good (not great...but good). Cars range from poor condition to good...but the good ones are usually pretty expensive (and previously modded).

I've owned both of these cars, so I have some experience w/ them. I have not owned a Miata...so I can't really say what I certainly know about the car. I would IMAGINE that the Miata is not an ideal candidate for drift because of it's short wheelbase.

In my opinion...I would rank the cars in this order: 240sx, RX-7, and Miata...based on your needs.

**SpazmSi** · 03-08-2005, 12:33 AM

Hey thanks a ton guys, for some reason I was thinking the KA was holy unsutable for anything more then a complete beginner, and that an SR was inevitable if I were to progress past that point. I will be aiming for the 240, for the very reasons you stated, ie the 300zx and other model "swaptronics" and the fact that in my junkyarding tours I have already seen enough cars to have two or three complete back up suspensions.

also i tend to forget that there is a smart way to shop JDM, find sites with good reps and go with used on the parts you can trust...

**boygenius_89** · 03-08-2005, 12:47 AM

yea....theres no such thing as a "budget rx7"

**Guy_in_grey** · 03-08-2005, 02:00 AM

240 sx all the way.. I have one and it rocks (93 240sx le vert) but its not much of a drifter right now. ill prolly be pickin up a cheap sedan or 180sx and dropping my RB25det into it. id say 240sx, as far as cars go, great aftermarket support and salvage support, and it can take a s**t kickin and keep on tickin.. early S13 is best... and yes... a miata is just another way to wind up in the obitchuarys

**Tuner** · 03-08-2005, 01:54 PM

What's wrong with the Miata? Cheap, light, easy to work on. Why do NEED a hardtop?

The Miata can be more than just a drifter too. It'll out handle the other two cars, hands down, end of story, don't argue with me on that one..

Oh yea, and you can, as you say "go JDM" with it too

**Hollywood** · 03-08-2005, 09:00 PM

if you just want a daily driver, go with the S13.

if you want a good 2nd car, for weekend driving or drifting events go with the FC. I have one, I go through a motor a year, but to me its well worth it.

now a miata is one of those cars that will make you a better driver. and they are very cheap. as mentioned before, you can use a miata for all types of racing. for what you would spend on the S13 or FC you could make the miata a spec miata, and get into racing, while still being abble to drift it.

**SpazmSi** · 03-08-2005, 10:30 PM

LOL I just PREFER the Miata with a hardtop. I hate converts, even if I had a S2K I would permanently rock the hartop.

I was mentioning shopping JDM soley because of the SR20DET that I thought I would have to swap if I were to do an S13. "JDM for the sake of JDM" can eat me, I coudln't care less about RHD or whether the parts are Japan in origin. Its just frankly if you run an RB or SR you Block Head and Tranny will always be imported.

TUNER did you roll your Miata? is it your post that had pics of it rolled and the new miata you got? The only reason I am scared of the Miata, is I am going to crash. I know I will. And prolly hard. But then again like HollyWood mentioned Spec Miata crashes are damn hard too, and they do fine. Miatas rock lol.

I don't know I guess I'll see what lands first, rust free S13 or Miata.... Great thing about miatas are b6t's are everywhere as well as BPs.....

**RX7maniac** · 03-08-2005, 11:34 PM

I say RX-7. Based on the reasons you listed. Just get some dtss eliminator bushings, all the free/home depot mods, and some drift wheels/tires and your good to go, turbo or NA. And if you don't like the finicky rotary engine, I suggest convert to premix, and clean carbon off the rotor faces every once and a while.

**Tuner** · 03-09-2005, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by SpazmSi

LOL I just PREFER the Miata with a hardtop. I hate converts, even if I had a S2K I would permanently rock the hartop.

I was mentioning shopping JDM soley because of the SR20DET that I thought I would have to swap if I were to do an S13. "JDM for the sake of JDM" can eat me, I coudln't care less about RHD or whether the parts are Japan in origin. Its just frankly if you run an RB or SR you Block Head and Tranny will always be imported.

TUNER did you roll your Miata? is it your post that had pics of it rolled and the new miata you got? The only reason I am scared of the Miata, is I am going to crash. I know I will. And prolly hard. But then again like HollyWood mentioned Spec Miata crashes are damn hard too, and they do fine. Miatas rock lol.

I don't know I guess I'll see what lands first, rust free S13 or Miata.... Great thing about miatas are b6t's are everywhere as well as BPs.....

LOL "JDM for the sake of JDM" At least we're on the same page

You can get a hardtop later, any year hardtop will fit any year Miata.

It wasn't me that rolled, it was droptopdrifter, we both had White Miatas, everyone gets us confused

But, he rolled it and walked away. One of my friends totalled his '99 Miata right infront of me a few years back. Check it here: http://www.checkerstripe.com/outlaws/annie/

Others have rolled too. I was rearended at 35mph, I was stopped and I was fine, just a sore neck. The cars are sturdy, you shouldn't be scared of them.

And the Miata aftermarket is just as strong as others

**Hollywood** · 03-09-2005, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by Tuner

LOL "JDM for the sake of JDM" At least we're on the same page

You can get a hardtop later, any year hardtop will fit any year Miata.

It wasn't me that rolled, it was droptopdrifter, we both had White Miatas, everyone gets us confused

But, he rolled it and walked away. One of my friends totalled his '99 Miata right infront of me a few years back. Check it here: http://www.checkerstripe.com/outlaws/annie/

Others have rolled too. I was rearended at 35mph, I was stopped and I was fine, just a sore neck. The cars are sturdy, you shouldn't be scared of them.

And the Miata aftermarket is just as strong as others

were you the guy drifting at Nopi?

**Tuner** · 03-09-2005, 05:15 PM

Nope, Droptop again. I was still living in Dallas at the time. I did the Texas Drift events out there

Check it:

http://www.diald.com/Features/Texas_...exas_Drift.htm

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