new coilovers or performance springs and stock shocks?

[tagilid]

i was thinking to either go all out and get tein HE coilovers or just buy performance springs, and keep the stock shocks?!! i am a new drifter, i have a 91 240sx. base model. someone please help!

[Tuner]

Neither. Learn to drive first

[MarshallMX5]

Usually one upgrades shocks before springs. Just get some adjustable shocks like KYB or Koni and keep the stock springs for now.

[DV_S13SIlvia]

Re: new coilovers or performance springs and stock shocks?

Originally posted by tagilid
i was thinking to either go all out and get tein HE coilovers or just buy performance springs, and keep the stock shocks?!! i am a new drifter, i have a 91 240sx. base model. someone please help!

Hey you and me are in the same boat. But i'm gettin Tein HE's because my stock shocks are just gone and my car is unsafe. By the way, is yours a coupe or a hatchback?

[malcolm]

listen to Tuner. Learn to drive the car quickly first. You don't want to learn how to drive in a perfect car. You need a car that has compromises you have to deal with (ie. too much body roll, lots of weight transfer, etc, etc). Once you master that, put Tein's in your car, because then you'll have the knowledge of what the basics of the car are like, and then you can set the suspension up and have the experience to know what is working and what doesn't.

When I started racing cars, I drove a Toyota MR2 (AW11) with cut springs. It handled reasonably well on smooth stuff, but was terrible over the bumps. It twitched all over the place. However, it taught me what it was like to drive a car that wasn't anywhere near perfect. Then I hopped into a turbo RX7 (FC3S), and even with just cheap lowering springs and KYB's, it felt so easy to drive. I can just imagine what it would be like with a real racing suspension... anyway, now I race a Corvette, with coil-overs, and it is as good as grassroots team can get a car of that calibre, and now I have the experience to set it up properly.

Learn how to drive your car when it's crap, because then you'll be able to learn the basics when it's cheap, and then learn how each modification affects your car.

[Parry]

I would love track time in your "weekend" rig Malcolm.

Unfortunately, I doubt you can afford to have a rookie rack up your race car lol.

Ahem...anyway...I agree that using the stock stuff for a while is a good call, and then moving to quality struts before perhaps considering some good quality springs.

One thing to be noted, the performance merits of "lowering" springs are often grossly misunderstood...lowering your car is not always good for handling. It can be very much bad for it in fact, depending on the geometry of the suspension.

[malcolm]

oh, I know... however, we weren't to worried about making the car handle well then. We wanted something fast, but difficult to drive. Now that I am in a well set-up Corvette, I have all the experience to work with (and it really helps when something goes wrong with the car).

[LOVMUFN]

Get someones blown short stroke shocks and F*CK them up more 'till they are so blown they don't have anymore rebound. It works MUCH better than crappy shocks, it isn't as predictable as coilovers or real nice shocks but it works way better than crap and will last pretty much forever sence they are allready blown to all hell. I am looking at getting coilovers soon so my uber blown-ness will be up for grabs in the next month or 2. Free ofcorse. I have Nismo struts and springs up front and Blitz Vi-S R32 struts with RS*R springs in rear.

[tagilid]

thanks guys, to answer ur question, i have a hatchback, ive learned to drift with my stock springs, i think im getting AGX shocks, eibach springs

[tonesdef]

Originally posted by tagilid
thanks guys, to answer ur question, i have a hatchback, ive learned to drift with my stock springs, i think im getting AGX shocks, eibach springs

het tein HE's with in a month or two your shocks will be blown because all they will do is bottom out. The agx's can't handle more than a 1 inch drop and the suspension on the 240 makes it even more stressed. Also with the teins the valving will match the spings and it will be a nice smoth ride as were the agx's might be two much for the springs or not enough. If you get coil overs you'll be fine driving and learing at the same time but don't go further than that