I have made some money, and decided to go the old hotrod route and start from an engine and beef the hell out of that before I do anything. My question is " you see 90% of people making drift machines with the sr20det engine.. is there a reason?" I wanted to find a totalled 98 240 and just build up the ka24de. Is there a clearcut reason people dont do this, or is there an advantage? I know that one already starts with an upper hand.. having a turbo and all.. but when you get down to the nitty gritty.. will a well built ka24 "bulletproofed" engine do as well as the sr20det variant? Or is there some secret people aren't sharing with me. Dont tell me cost.. because I am doing 95% of the hard stuff myself.. including blueprinting. The only stuff I need to get done outside is CNC everything and balancing. So.. is there a difference?
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Originally posted by 2501ok I have looked up most of my questions.... but one still lies unanswered.. why do so many people switch to the sr20? is it because of costs? that seems resonable.
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Check this out. I'm considering going the N/A route. We'll see.
http://www.club240.com/forums/showth...threadid=19485
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actually, by the time I was going to be done with this engine, I was planning on taking it closer to 3l than anything, but that isn't final. I want response more than raw horsepower, so I wont be striving for huge #'s. I plan on spending about the next year finding a ka24 I can use, and just working up from there. It took some time, but I estimate that if I did 99% of the work myself, including blueprinting, some polishing, and assembly, i would spend around 10k, instead of the upwards of 100k that some people shell out to have race-shops do the work for them. Thanks for the imput so far... I hope to have a streetable car within the next 2 years.
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Originally posted by 2501actually, by the time I was going to be done with this engine, I was planning on taking it closer to 3l than anything, but that isn't final. I want response more than raw horsepower, so I wont be striving for huge #'s. I plan on spending about the next year finding a ka24 I can use, and just working up from there. It took some time, but I estimate that if I did 99% of the work myself, including blueprinting, some polishing, and assembly, i would spend around 10k, instead of the upwards of 100k that some people shell out to have race-shops do the work for them. Thanks for the imput so far... I hope to have a streetable car within the next 2 years.
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Originally posted by Aiki-DriftOh...... Ok, so you're like 17/18 yrs old. Right? It's awesome if you can do everything yourself, but WTF do you mean by 10K? Is this for the car as a whole or just the engine? You could have a badass machine for maybe half that bro. Forget the V-mounts and the 18in. negative 30 offsets.
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I covered my tracks. No pun intended. I said it's cool if he can do everything himself at that age. I wasn't trying to get into a pissing contest about working knowledge. Most of my experiance does come from the multiple hybrid civics I have owned, so what? I love a GSR/eg6 and I am not ashamed. I own an S13 as well, so what's up with the Mr. Civic business? My apologies if someone was offended. I admire everyone's knowledge and advice on this forum. Let's move on.
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yeah im only 17, but I have been studying alot into this. Anyway, yeah I mean 10k for the engine.. I figure new rods, new pistons, gaskets, new head, headers, new crank, porting, polishing, balancing, blueprinting... doing most of that yourself cuts the $$ load. Blueprinting alone cost around 2k. its just like back in the muscle age... work from the ground up. BTW, I'm not taking any insult to the age thing.. I learned more about cars just by reading and such. I know more than most of my friends taking auto. Its sad really.. because they are getting an education on how to repair engines, and do maaco-grade paint jobs.. and I am saving money to build a block from the ground up along with the knowledge of good suspension. I am looking for a good ka24 block, and over the next few months.. I just plan to swap everything out for high quality parts. By the time I'm done.. I will have an engine that can take anything. No fear of blowing anything off, or dropping anything.
Here is the story with the 100K number.
There is a guy in his 20's in my neighborhood. I dont know what kind of car it is right now.. but he has spend well near $80,000 in his ride. His paint alone problably cost $10 grand. Its a kicking blue paint at that. Anyway, he did such a good job with his car..he was asked by the crew of the 2F2F movie to rent it to them. So, in a nutshell, it problably paid his car off. But yes it is possible to drop top dollar down for a killer ride. Apparently he only drives it at night.
End of story... If I can find him, I will ask for some crazy pics for you guys.
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Cool. Well I think most people go with the Sr20 simply because it is a proven motor. It's relatively easy to get power out of it and it's already a poweful. The Ka24de is the road less traveled. So, you know people will be skepticle on buliding it up or adding a turbo when they can just go with an Sr20det, stock, and be ready to go. I'm really interested in going the N/A route, but I need to find someone that is significantly knowledgable in that area for the Ka. Iv'e read that by adding single cam pistons to the Ka24de one can achieve a compression ratio of about 11:1. However, tuning is the most important issue and I don't know of anyone in my area that can tackle this task right now. But, with all things we must be determined and persistant. I guess we'll see.
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