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Ive had my Fc3s for about a year now, and i knew when i bought it, that it had some problems. But now its become too much. Anyway, i am in the market for a low mileage manual FD3S, now my question is, did all of these come twin turbo? and are they reliable with higher boost settings? any info is helpfull and no i havent completely ruled out my fc3s buildup.
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My honest advice. Get a rebuilt FD3S motor (stock) and setup a single turbo and slap it into your FC.
Why?
A. FC body is cheaper (and aero kit, if your into that thing)
B. FD and FC motors are relatively the same (except the wider ports and HP).
C. FD retails at 14K for a 30-60k miles stock!
D. Cost effective.
and yes, they all came twin turbo.Comment
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Well buddy, if you think you have problems now then getting an FD will compound them. FD's are not known for their reliability by any stretch. They are beastly street cars and are wonderful machines but they are not for the financially challenged. First of all it costs alot jut to get into the seat of one. Don't think that beause you may find one for 7k that you made out good. You will spend that alone if you blow the engine. Not too mention the massive problems that are known to swirl around those cars.
Some of them are, but not limited too, Vacuum line problems, overheating, poor air ventilation from under the hood, interior pieces and some more. If you get a stock one you will need to do a few upgrades before you even think about upping the boost. Radiator, vacuum lines and a vented hood for starters. Plus unless you are either a good mechanic or just plum loco, changing your own vacuum lines is like being kicked in the head by a fat kid on the playground. 30 fet of 5mm and 18 ft of 6mm I think it is. Just silly.
Then we move onto the other things. The factory twins are not known for their massive power output. So a single will not only help you there but will also really help the problems under the hood too.
The best way to do an engine on that car is to buy a Mazda reman so you know exactly what you are getting, then send it off to a performance place (your choice but I recommend ALOT of research into who before picking one) and having them redo it. You can be ready to spend about 7-9k on it but you will have about as bulletproof a Rotary as you can get.
Also do not be fooled by what other people say. I always hear that someone has a high horsepower Rotary that runs this and that and has this many miles on it but it is always someone they know. You never hear anyone posting about their own motor. There's a reason for that. Rotaries are things of speed and beauty when they are right, but when they are wrong, you are going to be hurting in the wallet. I went to the Rotary meet at the Dragon couple weeks ago and 4 out of every 6 of them were smoking and the smell of coolant brought back memories of my days in the trenchs of Rotary warfare.
But god almighty....they were fast and beautiful and I missed mine.Comment
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Yeah Ghost hit the nail on the head there. The FD is 10 times more work and cost to make reliable than an FC. You can make a 13BT make 400hp reliable for less than you can an FD when you include the car cost and everything. Plus, most FD parts are 25% more than FC parts. Some parts are the same between the FC and FD, and still the FD parts cost more!
If you want crazy power in your FC, swap in a 13B-RE or 20B. They are easy to swap (the RE more than the 20B) and make really good power, and parts are easy to make or come by.Comment
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FD are that pita?Comment
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im just backin up what everyone else said.
i had to make the FD vs FC decision. i figured that if i crashed (and i did), it'd be way cheaper with an FC. i'd cry if i ever crashed an FD. haha. seriously, i would. lol.
the rx7 is my hero... anyway, u might get away with an FD under 10k, but there has to be something wrong. single turbine FC's are pretty damn good. when it comes to power, i'd prefer the FC above the FB and FD. hard to find parts can be found at junkyards for the FC. u gotta be blessed to find an FD in one.
the FC is also a good drift car stock, cept for the weak angle. u can buy a kit for that though. i was able to slide my NA around, and it was even ported either. rotary is already pretty powerful. tuning the twin turbo's gonna be a b
h in the end too.
im not sayin the FD sucks, the car is awesome. i love it, but its just the price that'll bite u in the end. if u can afford it, BUY THE FD!! if u worried about cash, BUY THE FC!! BUY ANY RX7, KEEP IT ROTARY MAN!!Comment
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Huh? What did you say?
Hey you guys finally got the Falken car up, sweet man. Just went to your site and I like it. I'll be in FD Atlanta, hope to see it and Tony kicking the *Censored**Censored**Censored* there.Last edited by Ghost of Duluth; 05-02-2005, 03:08 PM.Comment
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Yup, theyre a big ol' pita. Prolly y u dont see too many in America. Theyre unreliable. In Japan tho, FD's run rampant.Comment
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maybe it's like how many people that support it or the tech support for the engineComment
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Hey Ghost of Duluth, about that meet you went to at Deal's Gap. How did you like the 20B powered 10th Anniversary?? He posted pictures up of that car over on clubfc3s and people about *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* themselves. He's planning on drifting it so I'm sure it will start to get noticed more as time goes on. That guy is kind of like my big brother so I'm really proud of him and what he has built. Just thought I'd ask to see if you remember that car from the Dragon meet or not.
ZachComment
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LOL... some of the worst "honest advice" I've ever heard.Originally posted by CRASHDRIVEComment
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Actually I remember that car quite well. I $#$% myself too. It was awesome. The guy that owned it was top notch cool as well and we talked for a while. I gave him my SEDA card and hope he does show up. I got a really cool pic of the 3 (edit) Panda FC's lined up to attack the mountain. I think there might be a drool spot or 100 on the lense though so it may be blurry.Originally posted by Boostedrex
There were some VERY nice cars there. The Spirit R replica was nice and the Hinson LS1 cars were just ungodly. That red one had such a clean install that I walked right by it and didn't even notice the LS1 tucked in there. Superb install. Someone told me about it and I came back to look at it. I actually have some photo's of all of em so i'll post em when I get home.
Tell your friend to come to Untouchable in June. I'd love to see that car get it.Last edited by Ghost of Duluth; 05-25-2005, 09:19 AM.Comment
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Too bad...Originally posted by GotNismo?
Yes.Anyway, i am in the market for a low mileage manual FD3S, now my question is, did all of these come twin turbo?
No.and are they reliable with higher boost settings?Comment
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hahaha ur funny, a 13-brew swap into a FC cost effective?? wow, thats rich!! u know how much work it takes to do this swap right?? custom mounts are needed, wiring. it would be more cost effective to pull the motor rebuild it and do a street port while its open and throwing it back in with a bigger turbo!Originally posted by CRASHDRIVE
and reliability is what u make of it....i know someone with 2 fd;s (one has a 20b swap) but the other still ahs the brew and he has modded it (RX6 turbo FMIC RAD. etc...) and he hasnt had any reliability issuse with it. u just have to take care of ur cars and ull be fine!Comment
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