L.S.D. Options (1 Way, 1.5 Way, or 2 Way?)

[--DriftKing--]

oaky i know cusco and KAAZ made bad *Censored**Censored**Censored* L.S.D's along with NISmo....but...waht options and kinds can and are best for drifting....like.....

1.5 way
1 way
2 way

are there any customizable l.s.d or more-so- like a tunable LSD taht you can change different attributes...?

[Oki Drifter]

the newest type out of the 3 is the 1.5 way, which is supposed to have, i think, the qualities of both the 1 and 2 way diffs.
1 way diff is use mostly on time-attack cars(grip)
2 way diffs were basically made for drifting, which makes it the most common type of diff used in the drifting world.
its also better for a newbie to learn with a diff rather than a stock diff
if you want to be able to have an all purpose car for grip racing AND drifting, 1.5 way diffs are for you

[--DriftKing--]

i wonder how good the 1.5 really would be for drift.....i own an FC so i would already have a hard time as it is....

iThe FC has amazing grip and it would be nice to keep that.....but i also want to drift ALOT.....so a 1.5 sounds like a nice option

[mranlet]

The main difference is that a 1-way will control slip on acceleration, a 2-way on acceleration and deceleration, and a 1.5 way on both but to a limited extent (making for easier turning than a 2-way).

You can also get tunable LSD's, which usually have some sort of friction plate system which can be re-arranged to precipitate different levels of slip. Usually there will be an inner shaft connected to the driveshaft and an outer shaft connected to the wheels with a number of clutch discs in between. These discs would be something like DWDWDWDWDW (on a 10-disc system with D being the driveshaft and W being the wheels) with the highest limit on slip (9 contact surfaces), but they could be arranged to be DDWDDWWDWW (5 contact surfaces) for less limited slip effect.

I hope this helps rather than confuses...

-MR

[DriftGirl]

Or be hella ghetto and weld it

[--DriftKing--]

so if u have time and money would tuning your own lsd for drifting be an option? or would it just be best to run a 2 way lsd...??

thanks alot for you help everyone its been great!!!!

[Craftsman]

What types of mechanical LSDs exist?

So I understand type 1 and type 2... what other types are there and how do they work?

Matt.

[--DriftKing--]

i am wondering the same

[URMachines]

The main difference is that a 1-way will control slip on acceleration, a 2-way on acceleration and deceleration, and a 1.5 way on both but to a limited extent (making for easier turning than a 2-way).

you got most of it. the 1.5 locks fully on accel and locks only half, or ".5" on decel

[BENJO]

i was wondering.. the original kaaz 2 way had 8 plates. this new kaaz 2 way has 16.

http://www.i-m-racing.com/kasolisldils.html

does double the amount of plates help with drifting? or is the 8 plate better?

[URMachines]

well, the more plates, the longer it should last due to more peices to wear. as for drifting, any 2 way will be fine for getting sideways.

[BENJO]

that brings me to another question ...

how often do you have to repair your lsd's?

[180fan]

1 way = locks on accel, not on decel
1.5 way = locks on accel, on decel varies by strength set by different makers
2.0 way = locks on both accel and decel

difference?
the 2.0 way, if you're not used to giving gas on turns it'll be your car in the guard rail. 1.5's alot more forgiving although not as good for racing applications.

Common issues people have with 2.0 lsd
noise. they don't expect that much chatter that is normal for 2.0 way operation. They don't turn as well if you're not giving gas through the turn and are not as stable as 1.5 ways in turns that you're braking through. If you can deal with these and can handle the gas through turns, this one's for you.

benefits of 1.5
more stability during braking. good for fwd cars but also very forgiving for rwd drivers who want similar effects of the 2 way but with an easier learning curve. If you don't know how to drive your car like a madman through straights and turns, get this one otherwise I'll have another parts car to pick parts from after you crash yours. lol

personal recommendation
I'd say get the 1.5 way or a stock LSD to learn on. When you get used to the driving dynamics of those, you might want to consider the 2.0 way. But from going to open to 2 way, you're seriously asking for trouble unless you've seriously driven a car with a 2 way diff.

[BENJO]

well i guess its 1.5 for me thanks for the great info.

[GRiDRaceTech]

180fan- I love your attitude on anything other than a two-way diff. Some of us are multitalented and don't want the 2-way interfering with our lap times and autocross placing. (Why do I say that? Because I brake to the apex, then roll on the gas. With a 2-way, the car would be twitchy, then want to understeer, then want to oversteer. Boy, would that be fun for 10 laps.) 1.5-way for me, please.

I agree, however, with the fact that beginners should not buy a 2-way limited slip.