okay i see all this talk about 86 corolla's some on how good they are some on how bad they are what makes them so special, i have a 1980 corolla hatch, is the 86 really that much better? and would it be posible to drift this even if i have to do a motor swap or anything??
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welcome to the land of little or no after market.
Make sure you wanna be here, because it's a hard road to take.
Ok, so what do you do? First you gotta to try to drift it as is.
really. You have no idea how important this is. Just do it, don't ask stupid questions.
I would recomend these things at least.
Make sure it's not too rusty, drop some wieght, get thicker (stronger) springs, and look for some better shocks.
As far as the engine, just do general maintinance.
Plugs,wires,oil change air filter and possibly gaskets and hoses.
If it's still running, worry about it later.
The springs are easy, find some at a junkyard(that you uncle d).
Get thicker than what you got, with non tapered ends( the end should be as big as the center). the shocks can be a pain. every one will say they don't have shocks for your car. Just match them to something else they can get. they won't know the diffrence, and you'll get shocks.
after that, just take the car out again and enjoy!
It will feel alot better. and you'll drift real cheap too.
here's some shocks that will make it easier to find some.
your front shocks will match-
ISUZU: I Mark '81-'84, Impulse '83-'89, OPEL: GT '68-'73, Kadett '63-'72
Chevette rear shocks also match -
Datsun 510 S/W 1968-72 Rear, Toyota Corolla All (Exc.S/W) 1975-79 Rear, Toyota Corona All 2/70-7/73 Rear, Toyota Corona All (Exc.S/W) 1964-1/70 Rear, Toyota Corona Mark II All (Exc.S/W) 1972-76
Ford Fairmont 1978-1983, Ford Granada 1981-1982, Ford LTD 1986 & 1983-1984, Ford Mustang & Mustang II (Excluding SVO) 1979-1984, Mercury Capri & Capri II 1979-1984, Mercury Cougar (Except XR7) 1981-1982, Mercury Marquis 1986 & 1983-1984, Mercury Zephyr 1978-1983, Nissan 510 Passenger Car September 1969-1973, Nissan 2000 Passenger Car (Except Roadster) 1967-1971, Pontiac T1000 1981-1987.
and the rear should match -
CAMARO RS (2)
1992 3.1L 189cid V6 F/I T
1992 5.0L 305cid V8 F/I E
CAMARO Z28 (5)
1992 5.0L 305cid V8 F/I F
1992 5.7L 350cid V8 F/I 8
1991 5.0L 305cid V8 F/I F
CHEVY II (1)
1967 153cid 2.5L L4 1 BBL OA OC OH
CHEVY II NOVA (3)
1967 250cid 4.1L L6 1 BBL PV PC PX PI
1967 283cid 4.6L V8 2 BBL PD PL
1967 327cid 5.4L V8 4 BBL ZD ZE ZK
ISUZU (4)
IMPULSE (4)
1989 2.3L 2254cc L4 F/I L
1988 2.3L 2254cc L4 F/I L
1984 1.9L 1949cc L4 F/I G200Z
1983 1.9L 1949cc L4 F/I G200Z
NISSAN/DATSUN
510
1973 1.6L 1595cc L4 2 BBL L16
1972 1.6L 1595cc L4 2 BBL L16
1971 1.6L 1595cc L4 2 BBL L16
1970 1.6L 1595cc L4 2 BBL L16
1969 1.6L 1595cc L4 2 BBL L16
1968 1.6L 1595cc L4 2 BBL L16
FIREBIRD TRANS AM
1992 5.0L 305cid V8 F/I F
1992 5.7L 350cid V8 F/I 8
1991 5.0L 305cid V8 F/I F
1990 5.0L 305cid V8 F/I F
1990 5.7L 350cid V8 F/I 8
1989 5.0L 305cid V8 F/I F
1989 5.7L 350cid V8 F/I 8
1988 5.0L 305cid V8 F/I E
1988 5.7L 350cid V8 F/I 8
1988 5.0L 305cid V8 F/I F
1987 5.0L 305cid V8 4 BBL H
1987 5.0L 305cid V8 F/I F
1987 5.7L 350cid V8 F/I 8
1986 5.0L 305cid V8 4 BBL G
FIREBIRD TRANS AM GTA
1992 5.7L 350cid V8 F/I 8
1992 5.0L 305cid V8 F/I F
TOYOTA (
CELICA
1985 2.4L 2367cc L4 F/I 22REC
1984 2.4L 2367cc L4 F/I 22REC
1983 2.4L 2367cc L4 2 BBL 22R
CORONA
1982 2.4L 2367cc L4 2 BBL 22R
1981 2.4L 2367cc L4 2 BBL 22R
CORONA MARK II
1976 2.6L 2563cc L6 2 BBL 4M
1975 2.6L 2563cc L6 2 BBL 4M
CRESSIDA
1988 2.8L 2759cc L6 F/I 5MGE
SUPRA
1981 2.8L 2759cc L6 F/I 5ME
1980 2.6L 2563cc L6 F/I 4ME
1979 2.6L 2563cc L6 F/I 4ME
wow, maybe I should do a write up....
sike!Last edited by soultron; 08-11-2004, 03:02 PM.
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Not good info.
First of there is a big difference between the 85 to 87 and all other corollas as far as how they handle. No matter what you do to that 80 of yours, your still going to be behind. I should know, ive had at least a dozen 80 to 83 corollas and another dozen of 71 to 79 corollas.
For your suspension, everything off of the ae86 will fit except for the strut tops but a drill can fix that. You should use the ae86 struts and rear end since the front brakes are vented, and the rear has a larger ring and pinion, most of the time factory lsd, and rear disk brakes.
For your motor, the parts are getting harder and harder to find. You can make more hp cheeper with that 3tc then the 4ag but you will have the worse gas mileage in the world. Carbs and push rods are a thing of the past.
If your that much in love with your car and decide to build it up, they are alot of fun to play with but it can turn into a money pit fast. Words of advice from someone who played with those things for years.
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Ok, I guess he could do all that too, but I'm just talking about doing things from a budget barebones perspective. I wasn't sure if he wanted to go pro or anything, just sounded like he wanted to have a little fun. If there's anything I know about it's being cheap. the corolla could be considered a money pit, but it's also
an opportunity to learn how to drive hard, and not blow thousands of dollars, just to find out you don't want to drift.
And by the by, twin webers are bad dass not matter if carbs are a thing of the past or not.
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ok, so for the sake of knowing, how much should I pay for a gts and where do you find one? What is your definition of cheap?
Can you buy and mod one for under 700 dollars? remember, we are talking about low level beginer stuff, not building a D1 car.
Just a fun daily driver.
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