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    I am so frustrated, i went out tonite to a wet parking lot to try to get used to my car, as this is the first RWD car i have really owned and driven everyday. I could not get the weight to transfer right at all, and it understeered like a dirty whore. This may have something to do with poor tires, and being wet, but it was really frustrating. My handbrake also barely works, it only locks up the driver side tire on left hand turns. Any advice on that? I guess i just need more practice and a better handbrake. But does anyone have any advice or tips for sliding my car? I can also now see why people would buy Tein HE's over Flex's lol But i am happy with my flex's because of how shitty the roads are around here. Oh well, i just need more practice.

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    First I'd suggest tightening up that e-brake. And get used to the tail coming around. And clutch kick like crazy too, toss the kick in with a feint. **Edit: Just remember that the revs have to climb to a certain speed so they break the tires loose real well, otherwise they'll just stick again and you get horrendous understeer. Once you can handle the lower speeds you'll have the confidence to dive into corners at speeds where weight transfer techniques like braking drift becomes much more effective. I'm no good at weight transfer either...yet. But I tried my first braking drift today as a matter of fact (in the wet as well). It turned into more of a power over but it made it that much easier.

    Just remember, all the pros kick it and e-brake it.
    B-Wurm
    Last edited by Buddyworm; 06-13-2005, 09:49 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by lateral-g
      I am so frustrated, i went out tonite to a wet parking lot to try to get used to my car, as this is the first RWD car i have really owned and driven everyday. I could not get the weight to transfer right at all, and it understeered like a dirty whore. This may have something to do with poor tires, and being wet, but it was really frustrating. My handbrake also barely works, it only locks up the driver side tire on left hand turns. Any advice on that? I guess i just need more practice and a better handbrake. But does anyone have any advice or tips for sliding my car? I can also now see why people would buy Tein HE's over Flex's lol But i am happy with my flex's because of how shitty the roads are around here. Oh well, i just need more practice.
      how long have u been driving RWD?...if not long, then i suggest u start on the basics if not already doing so....such as just doin 180s and 90degree turns....(this is me assuming that your tryin to drift as a beginner)....u gotta start on the basics and then when u feel more comfortable and confident wit your ride then u start on doing doughnuts(if u have LSD) and that will also help with your car control technique....after all that then u should go to a track and practice drifting.....from experience, i think poor tires should HELP u slide your car especially in the rain, maybe u wont have as much control over the slide but it should be easier to get it to swing....also, what techniques are u using??....if your starting out, just ebrake it and make sure your brake pads have been changed other wise u wont be ebraking(obviously).....and like u said yourself, just keep practicing, thats how u get better....dont quit, keep goin with it and have confidence, dont be scared of breakin anything either cuz eventually stuffs gonna break sooner or later, thats just a small part of being a drifter....good luck

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      • #4
        Hey don't worry too much about it especially if you were trying to practice donuts. I still have yet to pull off a successful donut in my car in the rain yet I can drift turns. Of course I don't have an lsd though. And also some road surfaces just suck. There are roads arond where I live where I can break loose without even trying and others where I can barely do it at all.

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        • #5
          rule #1) Don't get frustrated...you only make more mistakes

          rule #2) Do doughtnuts from a dead stop

          rule #3) Do doughtnuts, but going @ about 30-40 mph and then initiating the doughnut and try to hold it, don't jus do one and stop...f that...keep it going

          rule #4) Try doing a doughnut but variating the size of the doughnut itself, you'll find out the more gas you give the smaller the circles...the less gas...well you get the picture...it's harder than it seems...

          those are simply to get use to how your throttle and car reacts in a situation where there's no traction
          (I've done all of these so i'm reccomending them to you because they've helped me greatly)

          now here's the more fun part

          #1) "Drift with your smile" as said by Kumakubo

          #2) Since you didn't mention what kind of car you have, Attack with higher speeds (suposing your car is sotck except the suspenion parts you mentioned) Don't get scared, This helps buiuld confidence so that low speed drifts = teh weaksauce afterward...hehe

          #3) practice as often as possible, i know you can't be out there every night dirfting, but when you get a chance, practice hard...try to get better...you'll only get out of a practice what you put in to it...

          DRIFT ON!

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          • #6
            I suggest you learn to drive grip first. Weight transfer can be learned much easier that way. Gokarting helps too even the slow a$$ indoor ones.
            Hubert Young
            KORE 8 Films

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            • #7
              ^ word to that, you'll get to know your car and how to drive better if you hit up some grip events

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              • #8
                Try to find some AutoX near you, and run in it. It will help you with your handling skills.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DRIFTER-M
                  Try to find some AutoX near you, and run in it. It will help you with your handling skills.
                  Forget autox. Autox is not worth the time or money. It happens so quick that a beginner in driving would have no time to actually digest and learn what's going on with the car. Waiting all day for 2 min of driving in 2nd gear?? Hit up a open track day so you can actually feel the car.
                  Hubert Young
                  KORE 8 Films

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                  • #10
                    oh, i am not new to cars at all, this is my 3rd car with a full suspension and my other ones had brake upgrades also, but they were FWD. I understand the concept of weight transfer completey, i was just having trouble with it because it was wet, and i had no ebrake at all. I will keep working on it.
                    oh and my mods are:
                    Redtop
                    Blitz SS intake filter
                    Koyo Aluminum Radiator
                    Nismo Radiator Cap
                    HKS Hi-Power Catback Exhaust
                    Blitz Stainless Steel Downpipe
                    Megan Racing o2 Housing/Turbo Outlet
                    ACT Street/Strip Clutch kit
                    Stainless Clutch Lines
                    Nismo Leather Shift Knob
                    Walbro 255lph fuel pump
                    Greddy 60mm boost guage
                    Greddy Turbo Timer
                    Nismo Tension Rod bushings
                    Peak Performance Rear SubFrame Spacers
                    Tein Tie-Rods/Tie-rod ends
                    Cusco OS Rear STB
                    Secchi Spin Turn Knob
                    Tein Type-Flex Coilovers
                    J30 VLSD

                    I am just really new to my car and need to figure it out, the LSD also wasnt locking like it normally does...IDK.
                    Last edited by lateral-g; 06-14-2005, 11:05 AM.

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                    • #11
                      The way i learned was with my s13 bone stock before it was hit by some stupid kid and now i have my s14 but anyways i would go to a huge parking lot and do 360 trying to keep it going i noticed with the s13 it would understeer after a while but depending on your driving style. like every one els says a LSD makes a huge diffrence but if your starting off an open diff would work just fine just get the feel for your car and i would recomend doing it on dry pavement 1st before you start doing it on wet. sooner or later we all do something stupid and curbs will eventualy hit our cars ^_^. im not a super good driver my self but just keep practicing "on the track" and just talk to people. thats enough of my spuel but keep practicing and have fun. remember

                      DRIFTING IS A HOBBY.. NOT A TREND.

                      mIKE


                      Originally posted by lateral-g
                      oh, i am not new to cars at all, this is my 3rd car with a full suspension and my other ones had brake upgrades also, but they were FWD. I understand the concept of weight transfer completey, i was just having trouble with it because it was wet, and i had no ebrake at all. I will keep working on it.
                      oh and my mods are:
                      Redtop
                      Blitz SS intake filter
                      Koyo Aluminum Radiator
                      Nismo Radiator Cap
                      HKS Hi-Power Catback Exhaust
                      Blitz Stainless Steel Downpipe
                      Megan Racing o2 Housing/Turbo Outlet
                      ACT Street/Strip Clutch kit
                      Stainless Clutch Lines
                      Nismo Leather Shift Knob
                      Walbro 255lph fuel pump
                      Greddy 60mm boost guage
                      Greddy Turbo Timer
                      Nismo Tension Rod bushings
                      Peak Performance Rear SubFrame Spacers
                      Tein Tie-Rods/Tie-rod ends
                      Cusco OS Rear STB
                      Secchi Spin Turn Knob
                      Tein Type-Flex Coilovers
                      J30 VLSD

                      I am just really new to my car and need to figure it out, the LSD also wasnt locking like it normally does...IDK.

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                      • #12
                        Here's an idea. Find 4 pylons. Set them up in a circle about 2 meters in diameter. Take a run at them, ebrake and try and wrap a drift around them as many times as you can. I find I have to floor it and wind and unwind steering to keep the car sideways around the circle but depending on your engine you'll probably have to use throttle control as well.

                        **Edit:

                        Originally posted by sl4mike
                        i would recomend doing it on dry pavement 1st before you start doing it on wet. sooner or later we all do something stupid and curbs will eventualy hit our cars ^_^.
                        Eventually? The first drift I tried when it was dry I wound up hopping a curb Got away with a bit of curb rash and a blown tire so it wasn't TOO bad.

                        B-Wurm
                        Last edited by Buddyworm; 06-14-2005, 04:10 PM.

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                        • #13
                          I know what thats like B-Worm, like they have been saying, jsut get out and TRY. PRACTICE!!!!

                          PRACTICE



                          PRACTICE

                          ok, i think i said it enough, my car is dead stock, and ive got it out sideways, just dont give up and have fun.

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                          • #14
                            when i first got my car the ebrake was non-operational, so when it was wet i just shiftlocked and the rearend slid out with much ease too.

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                            • #15
                              the only time my e-break button / ebreak is used is when im trying to slow down or when i spin and i want to stop. idono if it works or not but it gets the chicks. ^_^

                              Mike

                              i usualy feint of clutch kick still learning breaking

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