D1GP DIRECTOR QUITs.....

[Slapshotnerd]

I put my $.02 down in an article What’s Next for NASCAR and Drifting in America?, it is all pure speculation right now, but I am sure I can't be that far off.

i personally think that you are connecting too many dots... unless you have insider information that would suggest that this will actually happen, i think you're stirring the pot way too much with this article.

[Bebop]

I agree with monkey slide and disagree slapshop. I think there really should be a 2nd series, but it really needs to be diferent from FD. It will be grassroot guys at first just like FD, but the skill and sponsorship will grow within the series. We need to open up the market, I'm tired of drifting being some side show for car show goers. I want the sport to legitimize, and have the focus be on the drivers not the vehicle. Honestly I'm, not too sure we can do it in the states seeing that Nascar, IRL, and Champ car overshadow production car racing like Speed World Challenge and Grand American.

I'm all for a second series, I just want it too be legit and not some fantasy ricer sideshow.

[Slapshotnerd]

The problem is that there isn't enough money to go around as it is. More series = money is stretched even thinner = even less likely that drifters will be able to make a living from it. Even at the amateur level, any type of 'series' should be coordinated through FD IMHO. Local events will always have their own niche market, and I'm all for that. But the second you mention "series" and "points" and "championship", i think that it's a bad idea right now.

I think we all want drifting to become a professional sport that the drivers (and hopefully other members of their teams) can actually make a living doing. Right now, that's not the case, and the more we try and stretch sponsorship dollars across different competing series, the less likely that will happen. I could give you a history lesson on the Show scene in the US as well as the Drag scene, and how competing series have impeded growth in some aspects (if not flat out failed), but I don't want to get too off track in this thread.

IRL / F1 / nascar are completely different. If you have enough money, they will let you come and qualify. look at how many Nascar teams have tried to qualify this year, it's more than you'd think. they also have several feeder series, and are overflowing with sponsorship dollars. Apples to oranges here.

Like i said, I hope people are looking out for the best interest of the drifting community, and not just their own interests / profit.

[MonkeySlide]

I think you guys are over reacting a little bit because you still have the WDC fresh in your mind.

First of all if this is even true..its not like D1 was already an American series and Hideo broke off to start yet another one making the total to three.

If he pulls this off this would make a grand total of ..2..professional drift series not exactly the "bunch" or "a$$ load" of series that you guys are complaining about.

Secondly..as Mike said..yes there aren't that many "pro" level teams out there right now but everyone has to start somewhere. And well Formula D is getting to the point where its starting to get harder for them to support a ton of drivers. Which is why its much more difficult to get a license now than it was when they first started.

As it is now Formula D can't support 70 teams trying to compete in their series unless they expanded their schedule to 15 events or something it just can't happen right now. It's like this in almost any major motorsport.

The IRL, Champ Car, F1..only allows for SO MANY teams to run in the series because if they let everybody in they'll eventually get over loaded.

Also, just because another American series is started doesn't mean that all the top pro teams in Formula D are automatically just going to try and do double duty and compete in both of them. The whole WDC fiasco proved that already.

All what this "DRIFTCAR" series means is that the droves of grassroots guys who missed the cut this year to get in to Formula D have something else to shoot for.

Hideo isn't just some random dude with money trying to start a series either..the guy has been the American organizer for D1 for quite a while now so he wouldn't be doing this if he didn't know what he was doing.

There are many ways Formula D and this potential series can work together and keep things good for everyone and even make things better in the future.

I say save your judgement until we know more details about Hideo's plan if this is something that is even gonna happen before we thrust WDC status on him.

Formula D got out of the gate first, is extremely well esablished, and has tons of momentum behind it.

They dont have ANYTHING to worry about from this..They'll be better than fine so I think everyone should just chill and see what this new thing is about.

[GBC]

I put my $.02 down in an article What’s Next for NASCAR and Drifting in America?, it is all pure speculation right now, but I am sure I can't be that far off.

[deadpirate]

i seriously think the rule of if you run a tire company that dosent sponsor FD and you gotta pay 500 extra is lame. but seriously having an a$$ load of different drift series is stupid. why cause all these lil mini wars over which drift series is better...when you can talk to the series already in place and offer ideas on how to make it better...not just get pissed and storm off to start your own series...thats retarded

[Mike Peters]

i just dont understand why everyone thinks there needs to be a bunch of series. there simply arent enouhg drivers/sponsors/teams in the usa for one series, much less the 38.3 different drift series people are trying to put together. how many fd teams have made every event this year and how many drivers are still like poorer than college kids? fd is the only series over here and all the teams for that minus maybe 15 are even what id consider professional, and thats even a stretch.

if yall want to make drifting so much better instead of trying to make rival series and stuff why dont yall just help support a team that already exists, or something constructive, instead of causing a bunch of companies to get pissed off when someone creates a series that fails after making a bunch of big promises. sure it sounds like a great idea but seriously, name me 30 pro level teams, TRUE pro level teams, then name me another 30 for the competing series and it will make sense.

but for the record, yes i like drifting, and if i can ill do whatever, i just want to drive, but if i do anything next year formula d is definately one thing i am doing. i dont understand why everyone hates on them. ive gotten in trouble with them this year for stupid *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*, but unlike some peopel who hate on fd i realize its my fault, not fd's. too many people hate on fd for their driving not being up to par in qualifier or other stupid crap.

whatever, just look at the big picture before everyone tries to make a drift series again. fd/d1 usa drivers are all the same people, and a lot of people cant even make the fd events right now. help a team instead of creating mor problems for them if you are really so concearned about making drifting better.

[Bebop]

who cares? we dont need him, just get another sheep to do the dirty work and have fun drifting is a mainstream sport now, someones gonna do it

Be careful with what you say,

Until I see drift reports on ESPN, I don't believe its a mainstream sport.

[nasty nate 7]

who cares? we dont need him, just get another sheep to do the dirty work and have fun drifting is a mainstream sport now, someones gonna do it

[Slapshotnerd]

Not surprised to see him go. Especially considering the timing. Hope both him and D1 the best.

ps - there's been several new series that are 'supposed' to replace FD. Until it CATUALLY happens, I'll believe it when I see it. Lots of people think they can do it. few actually can...

[Toycoma]

I think some shocking things might be announced at SEMA. Or atleast that is what one of the people from one of my sponsors said to wait for.

[roadster]

how about a series here in nor-cal? there's alot of drifters here with nowhere to go after the altamont fiasco.

[MonkeySlide]

Im not against another US Drift series, it just matters on how they put it together and schedule it.

If he's going to do it he has to be very careful about how he gets things up and running.

Im sure we all still remember the whole WDC thing which was killed before it even got off the ground because the organizer ticked off the drivers.

It will be interesting to see how this one turns out.

[Toycoma]

there are two things I would change in FD. The tire sponsor rule where if you run a tire that does not sponsor FD, then you have to pay 500 extra for that event. Or so I heard. Second thing is that FD needs to get more feeder series up and running. Whether it is their own or they work with other groups. How is a guy suppose to get a license if he has to travel 2500 miles?

[Mike Peters]

coming in 2007
everyone create your own drift series