Looking for a Drifting Writer, Reporter or Blogger

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Ever want your own space to write reviews, talk about other reviews and just put your writing skills to the test? Our tire forum is about drifting , tires, wheels, anything drift and tire related. Never to compete with drifting.com. The pay for doing this is your gratification of writing quality pieces about cars, drift racing, drift tires, tire testing, track testing, etc. You can also promote yourself, your business or whatever for free all you want unless you're thinking about selling tires or wheels.

We'll create your own space to write and promote you. Our only editorial input as the publisher will be to make sure it isn't breaking some law or in poor taste or puts us or our company in any potential legal situation. Other than that we'd love to have 1 to 2 people with their own Drifting Corner for the world to read.

Interested? Write a sample column for us and submit to us or call us and let's talk about your ideas.

e-mail us or call us.


Thanks,

Jim Seidel
President & CEO
Bad Boy Tires.com
http://www.BadBoyTires.com
TIRE FORUM
admin@badboytires.com
704-458-1011

[Slapshotnerd]

Or, for less than $20 a year, someone can register their own domain name and setup a blog, and do all of this themselves without having to report to anyone.

The reason you posted this is because you believe there is VALUE in adding drifting editorial / blogging on your site. If you feel there is VALUE for it, then you should COMPENSATE accordingly.

At the very least, offer your staff some quirks like some free wheels and tires... jeez! It takes money to make money. "gratification of writing quality editorial" won't pay any bills or buy plane tickets / hotels at the events.

[110octane]

This has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever read.

Jacob, you took the thoughts directly out of my head.

Jim, you should know better. You have worked at major corporate tire companies. I guess these type of ideas are why you are no longer there?

Get in where you fit in.....P.S.....it's not here in the drift community.

[Piner]

I would do it, since I have alot of free time but I can't see doing it for free.

[delicious steve]

I'd glady write a column for a company that gave me tires to try out. Benefit to you and to me. But as seeing as thats not the case theres no reason for someone to give away their knowledge and experience.

[Rhoad Racing]

Blogging 101... pay your writers.

[akuma S14]

*Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* when I wrote for IGN they paid 80 bux a column. Super Street paid even better!

Free is worthless. I'd rather write a diary.

[slider112]

here's the deal.. I like drifters a lot. Major manufacturers aside, we're a start up. You grow with me and we'll all do well together. You can't compare me to Super Street or Conti today. We've only had 8,000 visitors from all 50 states and 35 countries with 15,000 page views since March. Tire Rack gets that is a week let alone tens of thousands of hits versus our small amount right now.

Ever hear of the small businessman trying to get things started? GE started with 1 light bulb.

I can offer tires at cost, free jackets, hats, posters, etc. The rest comes with success. So give a brother a break.

Besides we're not looking for the professional writer. Just some input from someone from the street.

[Justin Banner]

here's the deal.. I like drifters a lot. Major manufacturers aside, we're a start up. You grow with me and we'll all do well together. You can't compare me to Super Street or Conti today. We've only had 8,000 visitors from all 50 states and 35 countries with 15,000 page views since March. Tire Rack gets that is a week let alone tens of thousands of hits versus our small amount right now.

Ever hear of the small businessman trying to get things started? GE started with 1 light bulb.

I can offer tires at cost, free jackets, hats, posters, etc. The rest comes with success. So give a brother a break.

Besides we're not looking for the professional writer. Just some input from someone from the street.

Which is why I have decided to give this a shot. I'm not a pro, I'm trying to grow... wait, that rhymed. Anyway, I do see potential to grow with BadBoyTires.com. I'm not making money right now as a drifter, but I feel that this is a step in the right direction towards my racing career. I've done the same thing with another company and now we're talking about throwing their name on my car and they pay for my entry. Just like any business, it takes sacrifices and risk to make your business work. This is a sacrifice and risk I'm willing to take towards making Justin Banner Racing, LLC bigger and better.

[Slapshotnerd]

here's the deal.. I like drifters a lot. Major manufacturers aside, we're a start up. You grow with me and we'll all do well together. You can't compare me to Super Street or Conti today. We've only had 8,000 visitors from all 50 states and 35 countries with 15,000 page views since March. Tire Rack gets that is a week let alone tens of thousands of hits versus our small amount right now.

Ever hear of the small businessman trying to get things started? GE started with 1 light bulb.

I can offer tires at cost, free jackets, hats, posters, etc. The rest comes with success. So give a brother a break.

Besides we're not looking for the professional writer. Just some input from someone from the street.

Ever heard of google adsense?

or how about having a budget for marketing?

Your company is selling a product. If you can't afford to pay your employees, then raise your prices a few bucks so that you can. simple as that.

Which is why I have decided to give this a shot. I'm not a pro, I'm trying to grow... wait, that rhymed. Anyway, I do see potential to grow with BadBoyTires.com. I'm not making money right now as a drifter, but I feel that this is a step in the right direction towards my racing career. I've done the same thing with another company and now we're talking about throwing their name on my car and they pay for my entry. Just like any business, it takes sacrifices and risk to make your business work. This is a sacrifice and risk I'm willing to take towards making Justin Banner Racing, LLC bigger and better.

I hope it works out for you. But realize that one of the things that drives down the pay of others is when someone agrees to work for cheaper / free. You've also lowered the value of your name and your team. Why would another sponsor invest in you when they know you're willing to work for free?

[Justin Banner]

I hope it works out for you. But realize that one of the things that drives down the pay of others is when someone agrees to work for cheaper / free. You've also lowered the value of your name and your team. Why would another sponsor invest in you when they know you're willing to work for free?

Thanks, but I feel that I have not lowered the value of my name and team. If I can show what I'm willing to do at a cheaper amount or something that's free and it's something of value to that company, then they will invest money for more things (public appearances, bigger spots on my car, etc.). Like I said, I've worked for free for one company already and now we're talking about them covering my entry fee for an event. This can grow into more events, whole seasons, full funding, and actually getting paid to do this. I understand your concern about starting to get underpaid, but realize we are competing for someone's money. If I offered quality bread for $.15 a loaf, someone's going to jump on it, when my supply runs low, I increase the price. Here, I'm offering my high quality service time, I have a good bit of free time, but once I start running out of free time, then someone has to be willing to pay to get my time and if I have high quality service, someone will pay.

[courantcom]

here's the deal.. I like drifters a lot. Major manufacturers aside, we're a start up. You grow with me and we'll all do well together. You can't compare me to Super Street or Conti today. We've only had 8,000 visitors from all 50 states and 35 countries with 15,000 page views since March. Tire Rack gets that is a week let alone tens of thousands of hits versus our small amount right now.

...dude that's weak. There's a thread on this page that has over 16,000 views and it was born on June 29.

[Rhoad Racing]

Ever heard of google adsense?

I'll add to your list Jacob:

http://www.21publish.com
http://www.adbrite.com
https://www.affiliatefuel.com
http://www.clickbank.com
http://www.ttzmedia.com/
https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/
http://web-audio-ads.net/
http://www.bidvertiser.com
https://chitika.com
http://www.clicksor.com/pub/
https://www.cj.com/index.html
http://www.dealdotcom.com/home
http://affiliates.ebay.com/
http://www.expotv.com/
http://www.fusioncash.net
http://corp.helium.com/marketpublisher/blogs
http://www.inboxdollars.com/members/
http://www.maxbounty.com
http://www.neverblueads.com
http://www.pepperjamnetwork.com/
https://www.rocketprofit.com
http://scratchback.com/
http://www.text-link-ads.com
http://www.zintext.com
http://www.mediaforge.com/
http://www.magazines.com/ncom/mag/af...=4107187930166
http://buysellads.com
http://www.marketleverage.com/
http://www.allaffiliateprograms.com/automotive_4/2.html

here's the deal.. I like drifters a lot. Major manufacturers aside, we're a start up. You grow with me and we'll all do well together. You can't compare me to Super Street or Conti today. We've only had 8,000 visitors from all 50 states and 35 countries with 15,000 page views since March. Tire Rack gets that is a week let alone tens of thousands of hits versus our small amount right now.

Ever hear of the small businessman trying to get things started? GE started with 1 light bulb.

I can offer tires at cost, free jackets, hats, posters, etc. The rest comes with success. So give a brother a break.

Besides we're not looking for the professional writer. Just some input from someone from the street.

I run several blogs/forums which do make money. Ironically, your site receives twice the amount of hits that my sites do combined, yet Im able to pay my writers/contributors without losing money. You should be able to as well. In order to do so, you need advertising on your site (you have NONE). As Jacob mentioned, Google Adsense is the most popular and has been the most successful in my experience. And of course, there's the links I posted above. All of those sites will enable you to make money from your site with little to no investment. Additional, you may want to look into CPC (cost per click) or CPM (cost per impression) advertising. It will suit your site well with the amount of traffic you receive.

In short, you need to pay your writers regardless of how "new" your site/blog is. So have the website pay for itself and its writers thus allowing you to offer potential incentives to writers/bloggers other than discounted tires and free swag.

I could go on for days about this, so I'll leave it at that. Hope this helps you out in some form or fashion. Best of luck.

[MonkeySlide]

The overhead of running a retail tire/wheel business isn't equal to the overhead cost of a website.

Who knows how much hes paying to buy tires at his cost..pay rent at his warehouse...shipping costs..etc.

Unless you're a HUGE website (lets face it most drifting websites aren't) you're paying at the most 330 bucks a month if you have your own dedicated server.

If you're doing well and getting a ton of hits you're probably charging just one advertiser at least 500 bucks a month or more for banner placement.

I really dont think this guy is out to shaft anyone...with a much bigger overhead than most other media sites in this segment, its not so tough to believe that he may litterally not be able to afford to pay this guy anything that would be considered "worth it"

So in exchange he's letting the guy plug the crap out of himself on his forum/blog.

How much would he have to pay for that elseware?

I agree its not the ideal situation...but I dont think its as detrimental as you guys are making it out to be.

I hardly think Justin is really going to drive down my rates, jacob's rates, or any other professional writer's rates for that matter.

Justin isn't even a "journalist" he's just a grassroots drifter writing about his experience.

If this situation suits Justin then more power to him. I don't think the rest of us have anything to worry about.

[Slapshotnerd]

The overhead of running a retail tire/wheel business isn't equal to the overhead cost of a website.

Who knows how much hes paying to buy tires at his cost..pay rent at his warehouse...shipping costs..etc.

Unless you're a HUGE website (lets face it most drifting websites aren't) you're paying at the most 330 bucks a month if you have your own dedicated server.

If you're doing well and getting a ton of hits you're probably charging just one advertiser at least 500 bucks a month or more for banner placement.

I really dont think this guy is out to shaft anyone...with a much bigger overhead than most other media sites in this segment, its not so tough to believe that he may litterally not be able to afford to pay this guy anything that would be considered "worth it"

So in exchange he's letting the guy plug the crap out of himself on his forum/blog.

How much would he have to pay for that elseware?

I agree its not the ideal situation...but I dont think its as detrimental as you guys are making it out to be.

I hardly think Justin is really going to drive down my rates, jacob's rates, or any other professional writer's rates for that matter.

Justin isn't even a "journalist" he's just a grassroots drifter writing about his experience.

If this situation suits Justin then more power to him. I don't think the rest of us have anything to worry about.

But you understand that:
A) BadBoy tires is a retail company which has monthly revenue from selling a product
B) BadBoy feels that there is an advantage to having editorial content on their site, and it will bring in MORE business
C) BadBoy's prices are set at a point where they feel they can be competitive AND still pay the bills
D) Justin would earn money if he setup his own blog / website and made the same posts, but used google adsense or other ways of generating money (which Chris posted quite a lengthy list) and he wouldn't have to report to anyone, nor would he have to rely on anyone else to earn his fame
E) anytime a company like BadBoy publicly recruits an employee for free, other companies see that and perceive the market to be at a lower value overall.

There are some extremely profitable blog-like sites in the automotive industry. There's a reason that C16 converted to Autofiends, and Speedhunters runs a similar blog-like setup. Jalopnik, Autoblog, etc etc etc... As Chris said, he's making enough money from his sites to pay his freelancers, and he has substantially less traffic than BadBoy is getting. The money is there, it's just being pocketed instead of distributed properly.

I think that profiting at the exploitation of the labor of others is very unethical and should be exposed when it happens.