BONDURANT CHEATED Formula Drift Team

[Bebop]

james just blamed me for his grandfather's stroke... this has gotten to a level that sickens me. our tire sponsor has informed me that the want me to give up my first amendment rights . and erase everything i said on this post.
whats the point of staying in a business that makes their own rules and doesnt follow the constititution of the United States of America.

Seriously now... seriously.....

SHUT THE FACK UP

Get a damn driver... or gtfo.

I'm sorry about what happened, bondurant sucked. I never liked him, never will.... but Jesus, people have listed good drivers and good team managers. Put up the money and lets get to seatle, or sell the cars, delete your posts and move on.

[drift-avengers]

+1

Ruth you should just take it as a learning experience and continue with your program. There are plenty of good people out there. As for the others don't even respond to their B.S.

Terry Henderson
Drift Buffet
Team Toyo China

james just blamed me for his grandfather's stroke... this has gotten to a level that sickens me. our tire sponsor has informed me that the want me to give up my first amendment rights . and erase everything i said on this post.
whats the point of staying in a business that makes their own rules and doesnt follow the constititution of the United States of America.

[akuma S14]

you shouldnt quit a sport because of a sour taste someone else caused.

+1

Ruth you should just take it as a learning experience and continue with your program. There are plenty of good people out there. As for the others don't even respond to their B.S.

Terry Henderson
Drift Buffet
Team Toyo China

[D1 DRIFTER]

you shouldnt quit a sport because of a sour taste someone else caused.

[drift-avengers]

[QUOTE=crymeariver;213967]FYI, I'm not 'in their camp' nor do I even talk to them. I am someone that's had a lot of years in this industry which is more than you can say. You have some maturity issues going on because you just can't seem to just LET IT GO. This is DRIFTING.COM, not DRAMA.COM[/QUOT

ITS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE THIS USER WHO IS TOO AFRAID TO IDENTIFY HIMSELF THAT I AM PUTTING THE TEAM AND TWO CARS FOR SALE AS OF RIGHT NOW. THE DRIFT AVENGERS IS OFFICIALLY DEAD.

[crymeariver]

thank you.. i was about to post the same thing. everyone here has the balls to show themselves and discuss drifting.
this person is either James or someone in Big Bear who is afraid to identify themselves to us.
obviously they are more concerned about James' feelings than the sanctity of this great sport.

I can't post under my own name due to the companies that I work for/represent. Thanks for the concern.

[crymeariver]

i actually was planning on ending this whole thing yesterday, but james' father sent me some very vile and horrendous things about me and my son.
I sent James a peace offering, even offering him a partnership at a race shop I am building. His dad said some dispicable things and said to never talk to james again. i suggest since you are in the bonduranat camp, you tell him to keep his father out of this.

FYI, I'm not 'in their camp' nor do I even talk to them. I am someone that's had a lot of years in this industry which is more than you can say. You have some maturity issues going on because you just can't seem to just LET IT GO. This is DRIFTING.COM, not DRAMA.COM

[Autospecs]

if there are any sponsers out there who know the meaning of loyalty and integrity please I'd love to know if you exist.
I cant possibly be the only one.
thank you so much....
I am getting so much pressure to stop speaking the truth that im thinking this is washington, dc and not los angeles...

Yes Ruth we do exist

[drift-avengers]

she knows that already if u read all the pages in this story lol

if there are any sponsers out there who know the meaning of loyalty and integrity please I'd love to know if you exist.
I cant possibly be the only one.
thank you so much....
I am getting so much pressure to stop speaking the truth that im thinking this is washington, dc and not los angeles...

[RAM GARAGE]

keep in mind also that if they want to run in the formula d series they're going to have to enter pro-am or do a petition. Unless the driver has a license with formula d their fine.

she knows that already if u read all the pages in this story lol

[facked_yer_mom]

keep in mind also that if they want to run in the formula d series they're going to have to enter pro-am or do a petition. Unless the driver has a license with formula d their fine.

[Slapshotnerd]

Ruth -

A performance-based contract would have kept you from paying $3k per month to him without any results. You could have paid $1k per month to cover his bills, and an additional $5k for podium / $1k for top 16 or something along those lines...

as for paying for the Porsche + legal bills / Letting him drive the lambo / vacations / other lavish expenses, no contract would have changed any of that. On the other hand, outside of someone winning an event or championship, I don't see how any of those expenses could be 'justified' as a business expense related to Drifting. Those seem to have been done out of the kindness of your heart, and no contract covers that.

[drift-avengers]

Being new to the drift scene, I find this thread very interesting. My company is a new sponsor of a few drift teams/drivers this year and I am very excited about the growth of this sport. Formula D and its partners have done a great job making this sport more mainstream so that companies such as mine are willing to put marketing dollars into the sport. My take-away from what i am reading here is that any team owner / sponsor needs to be very careful when engaging a driver, especially when serious money is on the line.

Ruth, thank you for posting your story here. I can learn from your situation. As I look to expand my company's involvement in this sport I will make sure to be careful who I deal with. What happened to you will scare away money and sponsors. In the economic times that we are in, the marketing dollars do not flow as quickly. Even NASCAR is having problems attracting sponsors.

I believe that the majority of the drivers in this sport are good people, unfortunately the few yahoos out there ruin it for everyone

I appreciate your saying that and Im glad Ive opened your eyes... Im sure most of the drivers out there are great people, and the one's that are defending the actions of bondurant obviously are sketchy. Even if I had bondurant sign a contract, it means nothing, because he has no money or collateral. What good would it have done me?
If any of you reading this are sponsers, I would be willing to talk to you if there is a good enough reason for me to stay involved in this sport. I really love the excitement at the events and would love to get to know the drivers and teammates.
thank you again.

[Drift Genius]

Being new to the drift scene, I find this thread very interesting. My company is a new sponsor of a few drift teams/drivers this year and I am very excited about the growth of this sport. Formula D and its partners have done a great job making this sport more mainstream so that companies such as mine are willing to put marketing dollars into the sport. My take-away from what i am reading here is that any team owner / sponsor needs to be very careful when engaging a driver, especially when serious money is on the line.

Ruth, thank you for posting your story here. I can learn from your situation. As I look to expand my company's involvement in this sport I will make sure to be careful who I deal with. What happened to you will scare away money and sponsors. In the economic times that we are in, the marketing dollars do not flow as quickly. Even NASCAR is having problems attracting sponsors.

I believe that the majority of the drivers in this sport are good people, unfortunately the few yahoos out there ruin it for everyone

[drift-avengers]

A handful of shops could help you with your EVO:

RMR - Huntington Beach
Road Race Engineering - Santa Fe Springs
Harman Motive - Torrance
High End Performance - Ventura
South Coast Mitsubishi - Costa Mesa
SP Engineering - Azusa
XS Engineering - Garden Grove

that's off the top of my head. I'm sure there's several others that are readily available.

www.evolutionm.net is one of the larger Evo boards, they can probably give you better advice.

thank you very much... I'll call in the morning...