(V8 PREDICTION) What Percentage of the 2011 Builds Will Have a V8?

[boxmod]

This is absurd. I'd gladly sacrifice smoke and speed if it meant more angle and closer tandems. Have you seen some of the Japanese rained out events?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW4PBFLEE08

what im saying is that we dont need to slow down the faster/smoke dumping guys...

we need to give more teams a chance to catch up in power and make it close tandem WHILE still keeping the 800hp crazy stuff.

hopefully this tire rule will help in the meantime but eventually will not be needed.

[Bebop]

we need to give more teams a chance to catch up in power and make it close tandem WHILE still keeping the 800hp crazy stuff.

We can always give drivers a designated tandem line that's fair to all machines. That will bring the action significantly closer.

But oh yeah, that's what D1 does. Anything D1 does FD must do the opposite lol.

[my 1 88 u]

We can always give drivers a designated tandem line that's fair to all machines. That will bring the action significantly closer.

But oh yeah, that's what D1 does. Anything D1 does FD must do the opposite lol.

I thought FD was the one with designated outer clip zones that benefit high hp/ wide tires and D1 throws drive lines out the window during tandem and judges speed/ angle vs closeness and pressuring the lead. Could be wrong.

I also think heavy smoke is overrated unless you are rev limit.

[Bebop]

Yeah you could say that, but at the end of the day in D1 if you don't "defend" your line or if you "wash out" to the outside you loose. So essentially its new line from qualifying and tandem. FD straight up says lead drivers runs their qualifying line and the chaser mimics.

[boxmod]

dont need to do much really, look at the top8 and top 4 etc battles... equally awesome builds, with great drivers, REALLY close.

this rule is trying to help the lesser backed guys keep pace, where its possibly going to hurt them (they rely on the big tire to grip also) or maybe do nothing but just slow down everyone, but still have the gaps since higher teir teams can handle to chassis development and re-configuring weight stuff more so than the newer guy.

the sport/FD style is just still soooo young. gotta give it time to grow a solid competitive field.

[my 1 88 u]

FD straight up says lead drivers runs their qualifying line and the chaser mimics.

Which is completely lame at this point.

[INFO]

85-80% has the most votes at this time

[ASD Team]

I think what happens in reality is FD judges are expecting drivers to run THE qualifying line in tandem, not THEIR qualifying line.

I think its fair for the FD judges to expect that anyone who qualifies for top 32 should be able to run the line the judges are asking for in the drivers meeting.

What this means is there is a predetermined line for all drivers, and all going well, both cars are running the same line and we have close tandem battles.

But if the lead driver misses the set qualifying line, at least in FD the chase car is expected to mimic the lead car line, helping create a closer tandem battle.

Keep in mind also, a driver can hit all the expected clipping points and zones but still run a slightly different line. Having the chase car mimic that should create closer tandem battles and a better show for the fans.

I could be wrong about this, but I think the FD qualifying line rule is an attempt by FD to create closer tandem battles, by trying to get both lead and chase driver's on the same line. Even if the lead driver makes a mistake and misses the expected line.

If that's the intent of FD I think it works pretty well most of the time and helps get the cars closer together in tandem by expecting them to both be on the same line.

Just an observation, I've never discussed this with FD so I could be off base.

[Linguo415]

80%pro 50%proam sounds about right.

I think the future won't see less V8's as much as just less 'crazy' v8s. You cant deny that having torque EVERYWHERE is perfect for us, but with the tire rules- 800hp v8's in 2400lb chassis is definitely more of a problem than helpful.

Aren't we always told in drivers meetings that we are essentially a show, with a competitive nature (who is putting on the better show).... to me the 800hp dumping smoke clouds large enough to close airports is more show than 2 guys, 20 mph slower, 1/4 the smoke, that are closer together. Just my thoughts.

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I think the idea of close tandem is no doubt awesome. and its getting better as more money comes into the sport along with more talented drivers. i just think this tire rule is trying to force it, and it makes it like artificial close tandem. just give it a little longer and we will have it without restriction i think.

Can someone explain this "tire rule" for me? I dont undrstant it.

[Piner]

^ its based on car weight.

put simply, Heavy car wide tires, lighter car narrower tires.

[Bebop]

Just an observation, I've never discussed this with FD so I could be off base.

One of the judges explained it on here a few years back. I'm trying to find the thread.

This is one of the issues from a spectator point of view seemed like a good idea at the time, but after 4 years and the introduction of top 32 tandem its clearly something that needs some work.

[Team KMR]

13b FTW

Ran a 13b all last year qualified in the top 3 twice.

13b FTW, 500hp, 23 psi

[Justin Banner]

Ran a 13b all last year qualified in the top 3 twice.

13b FTW, 500hp, 23 psi

And on tires that are new comers in Formula Drift (but not to drifting), Nexens.

[Linguo415]

^ I see. I thought it was a power to tire rating thing. Not sure how that would would work out but ya. lol

[Bebop]

Ran a 13b all last year qualified in the top 3 twice.

13b FTW, 500hp, 23 psi

How many tandem battles did you win?

How many of them were V8s?

Not hating just looking at the bigger picture... something doesn't add up when the top qualifier struggles to win a tandem battle.