America trying to re-invent drifting???

[GoukiS14]

^^ yeap yeap.... everybody has to make the $ somehow to live

[sobe]

What's it matter...it doesn't matter where you drift, as long as you're having fun...that's just me...

I give it maybe a Year or two more and we'll have Circuits in the US.

Again Parking lots are fun to drift in, many japanese don't start off on Touge, i'm almost positive kids get together and practice in parking lots as well. They then take it to the streets, or (start off in the streets and sooner go to the mountains)...they probably hesitate on the mountains a tad when they start off because they probably dont want to get made fun of if they crash or mess up over there they'd be insulted and disrepespected..i sure wouldn't start off in the mountains even if i wasn't in japan...i'd probably grip drive and learn the mountain and then once you have mastered or know how to drift go for it and call it no big deal...

[MrodDrft]

of course they use it to make money... but this is how it is... Instead of having the D1 in a more fitting venue, such as laguna seca, they would rather have it at Irwindale, a more stadium-like enviornment where they can cram more viewers... If u ask me it shud b abbout the quality of the competition rather than how many ppl u can cram in to watch it. And rally racing is a totally different style of driving... of course they may also 'slide' their cars but its for a totally different reason. What i was trying to say about drifting being "invented on the touge" is the modern drifting, the REAL drifting, such as the street drifts in Osaka came down from those mountains, not from parking lot meets or rally racing or stunt driving and yes the japanese invented DRIFT, mebbe not rally or ur stunt driving, but they inventing DRIFTING. If u even know wat drifting is

[nissanguy_24]

Originally posted by MrodDrft
of course they use it to make money... but this is how it is... Instead of having the D1 in a more fitting venue, such as laguna seca, they would rather have it at Irwindale

Who is they? They who choose to have the d1 at irwindale would be the drift king and the japanese organizers who put on the d1, No one in america choose irwindale, The japanese did. Like i said, probably because irwindale was one of the few tracks that would take a chance on it.

[sobe]

I think Drifting in America is beautiful...America misses out on alot of stuff...its great that we even have japanese coming here, its awesome actually, I'm not even in California and i feel honored..

Who cares what "Americas" trying to do with drifting

Lets hope no one gets hurt..and keep stuff goes the way it goes..id like to see one person attempt to stop Drifting from getting LOUD

[MrodDrft]

nvm u guys just dont get it

[nissanguy_24]

Clearly its a failure on our part

[Unclever Name]

i get it. America just wants to make money. plain and simple. and tell me MrodDrft, does it really matter to u so much? i mean ur in america. we all do what we think is fun. and since we dont have those awesome roads like japan....we have to go with what is the next best thing.....

[Emagdnim]

Stop knockin the hustle mang

[MrodDrft]

i dont really care about the commericalism... its just how they portray the sport of drifting overall, just a big mainstream sideshow, like there is no skill involved, or carefull setups, techniques, and technologies

[Unclever Name]

Originally posted by MrodDrft
i dont really care about the commericalism... its just how they portray the sport of drifting overall, just a big mainstream sideshow, like there is no skill involved, or carefull setups, techniques, and technologies

How do u figure? and who is they? u keep mentioning 'they' like it is a certian group or something like that. i dont really see what ur trying to accomplish by starting this thread

[nissanguy_24]

Who protrays it like theres no skill involved or any special suspension setups? what drifting have you been watching? Aside from the ocasional idiotic statement from someone at the NHRA (local newspaper i read at the d1) honestly aside from the import magazines drifting hasnt gotten much coverage. And the coverage i can think of, like the bit in Grassroots explained there was lots of skill involved and very percise suspension setups required.

[MrodDrft]

THEY its a conspiracy i tell u ! lol jk i mean jus tlike the companies that try to organize and run some of these events, and the media

[Emagdnim]

I'll try to break this down in a buisness perspective.

You've got about 3 different groups each with there own market.
Spectators, Enthueists, and the professinals(I use the term professinal lightly). Buisnesses just cater to there indvidual demands. Spectators like flashy, big, FnF type stuff. They only see the outside or "image" being portrayed thus thats what they get cause thats what they'll buy. Basic supply and demand. It ain't gonna sell if it ain't in demand. Professinals buy all the parts and particapate in the events. Enthueists are somewhat of a mixture of the two, They have a bit deeper intrest. I remind you these are heavy generalizations, you could spilt it up in so many different indivual groups that it would make your head spin. Its like with any other sport. Most of us are somewhere in the enthueist catagory. We're like the kids in the street playing baseball,basketball, hockey, etc. The people like team young dong , ACD, etc are like the older kids in more of a farm league type thing. And Driftextreem and all the pros are like...... well the pros. I'm confuseing myself and I feel like I'm starting to get unclear so I'll get the point.

My point is who is the majority. I think there will always be more spectators then actual particapents. There for there will always be more things for them. It simply wouldn't be cost effective to direct sales to the minority.

[MrodDrft]

Originally posted by Emagdnim
I'll try to break this down in a buisness perspective.

You've got about 3 different groups each with there own market.
Spectators, Enthueists, and the professinals(I use the term professinal lightly). Buisnesses just cater to there indvidual demands. Spectators like flashy, big, FnF type stuff. They only see the outside or "image" being portrayed thus thats what they get cause thats what they'll buy. Basic supply and demand. It ain't gonna sell if it ain't in demand. Professinals buy all the parts and particapate in the events. Enthueists are somewhat of a mixture of the two, They have a bit deeper intrest. I remind you these are heavy generalizations, you could spilt it up in so many different indivual groups that it would make your head spin. Its like with any other sport. Most of us are somewhere in the enthueist catagory. We're like the kids in the street playing baseball,basketball, hockey, etc. I'm confuseing myself and I feel like I'm starting to get unclear so I'll get the point.

My point is who is the majority. I think there will always be more spectators then actual particapents. There for there will always be more things for them. It simply wouldn't be cost effective to direct sales to the minority.

perfect.