8 Things I never want to see in drifting

[nissanguy_24]

I dont take any opions as insults, they are all welcomed, and i consider everyone weighing its ideas against my own.


I understand what it cost for the D1, and im not saying the D1 is the best example however i do like the fact that the big money pro level is the D1. How many grass roots stock car guys can say that about nascar? they cant exactly race in one race and take a shot at the big race at daytona They are many many many levels seperated from that level. I think alot of it has to do with noncar related sponsors

But alot of what i said doesnt involve big money, just things i dont want involved in drifting. The big money really isnt the worse thing as long as we can keep the rest out of it.

[Nismo]

Re: 8 Things I never want to see in drifting

Originally posted by nissanguy_24
7. this is a big one..... Beer and Alchahol sponsors! This is my personal opinion but Alchahol has no business with automobiles LET alone auto racing. And deffenately has no business in drifting. To me drifters strive for complete control over a car.. anything that will hurt your control of the car has no business in the car or painted on the car.

You're right Nissanguy, the NHRA is sponsered by Budwieser and some other alcohol names. I dont think it has any business there either. Besides it makes the place look like a Hickville. Like the Pomona Speed Way looks kinda tacky with the big Budwieser banner on the side. I think they should just stick with the performence parts banners. Kudos man

[yarzan]

well money is needed to make the world go round. the thing about religion, im religious, but i dont think they should force it on others.

and ghost, about the whole girls thing: at DD17 they had this guy from street fury going around all like, "get yo sh!t sidewayz biatch" "we gons have a wet tshirt contest with these honeyz" it was pretty lame, lots of ppl ignored him and tried to stay away, one guy even called him the dark side of drifting. he tried to have a wet tshirt contest but that didnt work, everyone was too involved in the drifting and the cars. So, lets not make this like your import show where sex HAS to sell, lets keep this motorsport clean for once and not treat girls like objects., as in Hot car, hot girl. but about girl drifters, i agree with you, we really gotta see more of em out there.

[OH240SE]

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#2 Death/Dismemberment/Paralization
#3 Riots (altho i do enjoy the occasional riot)



But some things i'd like to see are CHEAP PRICES/FOOD/DRINKS, (you go to almost any race anywhere and they dont allow alchohol in the pits anyway. if they find it, whatever driver's pit ur standing next to, the driver gets disqualified. NO MATTER if ur on the crew or just a spectator) so thats not a problem for u alchohol haters out there. (personally after 1-3 beers and some smoke, i drive alot smoother and less cowardly/cautious, but if i have that 4th i am no good from then on cause i'll get too aggressive and brake something) thats just me because it calms my nerves a bit...

AUTOGRAPH AND INTERVIEW SESSIONS, TRACK TIME, OFCOURSE QUALITY FEMALES, AND FAN BASED JUDGING

(i hate to say it but make the judging a bit like that american idol with a "fan judge ballot" turned in after the heat races. might cost a bit in paper but would still be fun.


just a spectator's wish list.

-B

[yarzan]

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[OH240SE]

haha see that above post?!

now if there were about 12 of those empty heineken bottles i'd be nervous. but is it true that the japanese have a gland in their body that doesn't let them get drunk as easily as other races?? or is that just a stupid myth? cause he looks drunk lol.

[clay payton]

the japanese are a culture of drinkers and cigarette smokers.

everyone drinks and smokes, but, what is different is that you won't seem them doing it as irresponsible as americans (no need to quote drunk driving stats, we all know it's the #1 killer here).

because their culture is set up very differently than ours, things like "having a beer" is not even an issue.

I've seen high school kids acting crazy and yelling "oh man i'm so wasted" after having 1 beer, that, as a prank, was actually non-alcoholic hahahaha.


also, having been around lots of japanese, it does seem like it takes more alcohol for them to get lively.

[180maniac]

ok first, the person that said you could sue for the prayer....... how do you figure that?? you payed to be there, it isn't a govt. related organization, you are free to leave whenever. Nascar is a redneck sport, rednecks are mostly from the south, the south is religious for the most part. so it is not that big of a problem, and most nonreligious people in the south know not to complain about it. ok, now onto the next thing.

about the big sponsors/non-car related sponsors, they give everyone the money to have events at places such as irwindale, like someone said they wished they could still have events with them. if there weren't the sponsors, then entree fees could just be humongous(sp?) and then you could still have the events. there are sacrafices to be made, either you pay or they do. and if my understanding is correct, the sponsors give the money, the team decides what to do with it, so really, the sponsors just decide what stickers will be there, and as people have complained about before, sponsor stickers on d1 cars are hideous, but most of ya'll seem to understand that. how is it different for the other sponsors (by the way, i like the m&m stickers, and m&m's) and imo the reason why there aren't as many car related sponsors for U.S. drivers is because there are less car related companies that care about drifting right now. if a company doesn't focus on import cars then they probably don't cater to most of the drifting crowd. so the answer to this dilemna would be for the sponsors to expand and maybe bring in new people. one example of a car related sponsor that took a risk in drifting was mopar. but as a lot of people here didn't accept them, this is the reason some car companies are skeptical about getting in on it. we just need to be more open minded. if you don't like the formula d sponsors, i'm sure there will still be small time events held in parking lots accross the country. but just like nascar, if you wanna go big time, you gotta spend a lot of cash.

sorry about the long post, just had a lot to say, you can start the criticism now.

- peace

[Ghost of Duluth]

I don't want YOU guys to have girls, just me. Comon man this ain't no democracy.

[nissanguy_24]

180maniac, i have to dissagree with one of your conclusions. Though it apears valid. Well let me rephrase that your conclusion was there arent many car related drifting sponsors for domestics because there arent many domestic car parts interested in drifting, lets broaden that though. Lets say there arent many car related sponsors in nascar. The naturally conclusion there is that there are not many car related sponsors because the sponsors are interested in performance as a whole.

It seems very true but i think cause and effect are mixed up, I think the non-car related sponsors came in to get a piece of that stock car pie. THEY dont care about streetability because they dont sell car parts. They just care about winning at all cost to get there image out, as many sponsors do. This over a few years leads to the cars having nothing to do with street cars they are suposed to be made after, Thus the manufacturers stop carring about performance. Ford can make a crappy taurus and still race a rwd v8 monster in nascar because theres no homologation rules. Now the cars arent street cars at all, so car related sponsors go away all together. Who cares if this nascar team won with your carburated, because all real ford tauri (plural for taurus i assume) are fuel injected. The taurus enthusiest arent exactly rushing out to buy that cool carburator.

I know my rambling is hard to follow but i fear noncar related sponsors will not only make the sport expensive but take it away from the street cars we love. Big money talks and unless we do something as fans it will become that way. It can grow with out becoming stock car like. I mean i enjoy a stock car race as much as the next redneck, but these are negative things i think we can learn from.

And as for the bit about us 'Alchahol haters'... I dont care what the japanese do, though i admit they tend to be alot smarter then we as a whole do. But it is still my firm belief that alchahol and any other similar drug or compound that alters your perception and reaction time has no business with an automobile.

I think its dangerous not to mention stupid to drink during an event, but my complaint was mainly about the fans. When you look around and see EVERYONE not an exaseration, over the drinking age with a beer in there hands. and realize that not one person could of walked or taken a bus to this event because of its location. Well i just dont want to see drifting fans like that. And as for smoking, i still think its incredably rude to do in a crowd. Its like bad breath that carries for yards. Not to mention the health issues with it.

[swifty949]

i have to disagree about Sponsor money from non car related brands spoiling the sport.

The sport is regulated by the governing body (scca & formula D) the cars will not change because of money, the cars will change due to rules with the governing body. I see where your going, but right now it's all up to Formula D and D1GP to dictate the direction of how the cars will be built.

[scirocco]

Re: Re: 8 things I want to see in Drifting.

Originally posted by DrifterN
haha i wouldn't mind letting these happen haha
but substitute jeans for boy shorts or really extremely short shorts hahaha

how about nothing at all... and ya thanks for cheering me up too ghost.... and nissanguy, i agree with everything you said except for the cigarette and alcohol sponsors.. they are just sponsors and they keep drifting alive... although i hate cigarettes and alcohol aint my entire life... although i would like to go to amsterdam for some unspecified reason someday... anyways... ghost has reminded me about how cool it would be to win a d1 competition and have a party after with loud music around my car and girls loungin in and out of my car... perhaps even on me... my wife would kill me.. anyways im gonna go think of getting a lapdance from one of the import tuner models.... AHH! i mean... from my beautiful attractive wife who... uh.. my wifes has me by the ear and she seems pissed so i gotta go... later!

[gladhatter]

Re: 8 Things I never want to see in drifting

Originally posted by nissanguy_24
I 5. Praying before a race over the loud speaker... I dont know why this bothers me so much, probably do to my religious beliefs (or there for lack of) if you want to pray thats fine.. but leading the whole audience in one. i dont know bugs me.

Gee I hate to be the one to say it but that is kind of assinine. You get in a big wreck and have your life on the line....you're gonna wish somebody would have prayed for your sorry butt!

Originally posted by Wickdmarz
You know if you really wanted to, you can sue them for that, its quite illegal.

Gee, where did YOU go to law school? Walmart? There is no law against praying at a sporting event that is not governmentally controlled. Last I heard NASCAR is a private entity and as such they can do whatever they darned well please. You don't like? Go to a gokart track.

[Wickdmarz]

Re: Re: 8 Things I never want to see in drifting

Originally posted by gladhatter
Gee I hate to be the one to say it but that is kind of assinine. You get in a big wreck and have your life on the line....you're gonna wish somebody would have prayed for your sorry butt!

Gee, where did YOU go to law school? Walmart? There is no law against praying at a sporting event that is not governmentally controlled. Last I heard NASCAR is a private entity and as such they can do whatever they darned well please. You don't like? Go to a gokart track.

Whats with the LAME personal attack...Gees why blow up on me, when I didn't start on the thread? Obviously it bother someone else, so send it that way. Plus this board isn't about personal attacks, watch it or you'll get banned for doing that.

But I believe they can sue for a huge public pray on.

1 They didn't get permission

2 You didn't pay to pray

3 You can sue for just about anything.

You can say you don't feel comfortable to go to your favorite NASCAR races because of the praying. And in turn say you're emotionally stressed because of that. Then you would ask for a public apology from NASCAR and have a waiver of some sort. Well thats all if you win...

No I wouldn't want someone praying for me, I rather have a paramedic working his/her butt off to save my life.

Sorry this is hijacking the thread...Back on topic

[nissanguy_24]

I dont want any one to pray for me. Honestly im indifferent to the idea. Sorry fo thats "assinine" to you, but thats just how it works. Instead of preying they could call a doctor or something, it will work alot better.

If you wish to debate me or wickdmarz thats one thing, i am up to it, i am sure she is as well. However stupid personal attacks will no longer be allowed on this website.