A70 Supra + 2JZGTE Motor?

[drift matic]

I want a jz80 supra but i think they are to heavy for drifting but they still have alot of horses under the hood so i was thinking about getting a a70 supra and putting in a 2jzgte motor in it.
any suggestions.....

[CounterLock]

ask emission.

[mranlet]

You got money?

They are heavy, but not too heavy - nothing is too heavy i you can control it...

-MR

[emission]

An A70 is a great car to start drifting in. Tons of aftermarket parts for the GTE. But I would like to see alot more suspension parts avalible. But thier are suspension parts being fabricated for the A70 as we speak so keep your eyes out for an update.

The only problem with the A70 is It likes to correct it self while in a drift. But that can be taken care of just by kickin' the clutch. You need alot of seat time in the supra. these are heavy cars which like to spin out. As long as you get the feel of when the car is going to spin out just counter and clutch kick or accel depending on how fast the rear wants to come around.

My basic set up for drifting is Sway bars in the rear, don't set the stiffness too high. I distroyed my rear link. so the softest setting is just fine. Im not sure how much neg. camber I have in the rear. I havn't gotten around to measureing it. Im running tokico hp blues, and eibach lowering springs. I fooled around with the settings on my supra. removeing the rear sway bars keeps the vehicle from sliding. removeing the front sway bar gets rid of under steer. It grips like crazy. cornering is alot better.

The 7MGTE is a well enough motor for drifting. But swaping to a 1JZ, 2JZ, really dosent matter unless its just for performance and looks then go for it!
The 2Jz is well known for being a bullet proof motor "BPU" is all you need for drifting with that motor.

Jay

[drift matic]

emission whats the price range for an ma70 do you know what is the liter for the stock motor

[suberi_RPS13]

7MGE/7MGTE are both 3.0 in-line6...
1JZ is a 2.5 twin turbo inline6...

I paid 2 grand for my ment condision 7MGE(N/A)...and paid $1,600 for a 1JZ front clip.

[mranlet]

Originally posted by drift matic
emission whats the price range for an ma70 do you know what is the liter for the stock motor

It really depends on condition. You can get N/A's with high miles for less than a grand, but a good condition turbo model can go for $6k.

You can get a 7M-GTE clip for around $2k or just the motor for around $1000. There are some really good tech articles about head gasket failure for the 7M and how to easily and cheaply fix it.

I've heard conflicting things about the 1JZ swap - how hard is it?

-MR

[emission]

1000 for a GTE is way to much. Here on the west we get them for 600.

1jz isn't hard.

[emission]

I got my 200,000+ mile supra for 2000 back in 98. Around here these things are sselling for 500 - 1000 for an 86 to 88

[mranlet]

Have you had to replace a lot of the rubber parts on it?

On the East Coast, car part prices are a lot higher - I'd still pay $1k for a GTE when (and if) I get a Spura, but the less money the better.

How much would you say you have invested in the Supra so far including purchase price?

-MR

[emission]

Originally posted by mranlet
Have you had to replace a lot of the rubber parts on it?

On the East Coast, car part prices are a lot higher - I'd still pay $1k for a GTE when (and if) I get a Spura, but the less money the better.

How much would you say you have invested in the Supra so far including purchase price?

-MR

I haven't replaced any bushings due to drifting it. But the drive shaft bushing I replaced thats the weakest part that needs replacement most of the time. But a one piece carbon drive shaft will keep that problem from ariseing.

Well I've spent roughly 5000 total incl. purchase price. not counting crashes, tyrannys, BHG, and LSD. 3000 realistic price.

You can put together an A70 drift supra for much less then I have. Take note I've had my car for 5 to 6 years. So Ive been through alot of problems.


Purchase price $$$$

Sway Bars = 200
Shocks = 200
Lowering Springs = 200
Strut bars = 400

Your looking at spending about 1,000 on a project car.

optional equip.

coilovers = 1300
lower arm = 300

Turbo essentials = 1200 ( basically all the goodies and beefing it up to 300hp )

[mranlet]

Supras are Toyotas, so I wouldn't think that a lot of stuff would go wrong as long as regular maintenance is maintained.

Other than the universal good advice for buying an old car (leaks, damage, etc) and the head gasket issue, is there anything Supra-specific that we should all know?

Thanks for the info, it's half the battle!

-MR

[trainwreck]

i have an ma70 that is pretty well setup, all i need to do is get the motor bugs worked out and get it tuned.

suspension mods include:
Silkroads coilovers 8 way adjustable dampers/ 2 way height adj. (18k front springs / 12k rear springs)
JIC upper front control arms
Autopower 4 pt roll bar
Cusco rear strut bar
Ebay front strut bar
Suspension Techniques sway bars
Toyo RA1 225 40 18 stretched onto 8.5x18 wheels front
Hankook 245 40 18 stretched onto 9.5 x19 wheels rear
DGTrials solid sway bar end link kit
DGTrials trailing arms
DGTrials rear lower camber arms
Dgtrials rear toe arms


drivetrain mods:
Horsepower freaks fermaic clutch disc
RPS pressure plate


brake mods:Front: porterfeild R4S
Rear: porterfeild R4S
Aerospace brake bias valve


misc mods:
Relocated battery
Gutted car
Powersteering cooler
Weight reduction including:

spare tire
both rear speakers
hatch boxes:
jack spinner:
jack:
tire iron:
bag:
hatch plate (black thing):
All rear plastic interior
take out drives side seat, and put in corbeau
remove pass side seat
stock rear seat backs
stock rear seat bottom
stock rear seat belts + hardware
stock rear seat brackets/bolts
all tar and insulation from under carpet
tow hooks
cut front bumper support
cruise control
all misc. sensor, manifold braces, egr, charcoal canister, etc at least
vibration damper motor mount
all tems *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* *Censored**Censored**Censored*
whole ac system

interior mods:
Gutted from front seats back
Removed tar from firewall back
Painted rear interior
4 pt autopower roll bar
Corbeau Forza seat
SSR 4 pt harness
Momo steering wheel
Steering wheel quick release
RAZO petals
Momo shift knob
Autopower boost, air fuel, coolant temp, egt, and tach gauges


and finally motor mods:

T72 Q trim 1.00 AR 3.5 inch v band outlet (looking to trade for small T6#)
9 inch K&N air filter
2.5 inch intercooler piping
bucsher racing fmic 23x8x3
turbo Xs RFL bov
ported lower intake mani
ported head
1mm oversized SS valves
.20 over JE pistons with Teflon coated sides
total seal gapped rings
shot peened rods
arp rod bolts
arp main bolts
arp head studs
GREDDY t78 exhaust manifold
Hks 40mm wastegate
Stock fuel rail modded for –8 AN fittings
(6) 720 injectors
Aeromotive A1000 fuel pump
sumped tank
Aeromotive A1000 fuel pressure regulator
-8 AN feed from tank to rail
-8 AN return from regulator to tank
HALTECH e6k EMS
HKS EVC 1 boost controller
HKS 1.2mm MHG
(3) Rx7 igniters and coil packs
3.5 inch exhaust with BLITZ NUR spec muffler
PWR radiator
Holly oil cooler
Toga high flow oil pump
No idle air valve
No thermostat
No egr
No egr cooler
No cold start injector
No cruise control
Cusco oil catch can
Electric fans

[mk3mann]

you guys forgot about me! LOL

I own a MK3....and am rebuilding the motor as we speak. I am getting it machined on tuesday...and taking it to my newfound local supra shop ( 3rd shirt performance, soon to have a web site!) and a guy named Erin is building it up for me, he has built LOTS of 7m's and i mean LOTS.

i love the handling of the car, very easy and nimble for 3400 lbs! to be quite honest, i think its a well suited drifter...people just over look it becuase of its "heft" so to speak.

just find one and drive it...you will love it or hate it. I loved it...

the turbo is what got me

then the HG blew ( kinda a miracle, i am rebuilding the whole car, all new parts)

its slow right now in the making, i am just waiting for next tuesday my day off and take the motor to the shop.

I also ordered some Toms' C7R wheels from japan on ebay...then its time for suspension....

i just want about 350hp...just enough to have a good kick on the interstate and enough power to power out of a turn sideways!

400 would be nice though

[suberi_RPS13]

If you want big horse power for easy I suggest a 1jz..but it's not for everyone. If you do get one a few simple bolt-ons and 400 is easy to get to. A 1jz does help alot with getting slideways through a turn. I think I like drifting my A70 better then my 240, it just seems smoother. I think it is because of all the wieght, you seem to get less snap and you don't have to oversteer as much. Also I thought this was the pix/vids section...shouldn't this be in general/tech? just wondering