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yea ive seen a bimmer drift in one of the grip videos, and the guys from the teckademics crew ive seen him drift too. they do decent but who wants to pay that much if u crash which is most likely gunna happen sooner or later
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the BMW M3 GTR actually uses the M5 motor and it's detuned. It's normally 400bhp. I agree that if price was a factor that the Japanese cars would probably be the better choice, but then again you could buy an e30, drop in a euro S52, turbo it, and put on really nice suspension setup for probably around 20k, which is a very very rough estimate, and you could put out 600 rwhp easily.Comment
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Apples.......Oranges........
It's kinda hard to compare the two, because they have such great offerings... remember the konigsegg video, where the evo placed second? How about the STi 22B? And Japan CAN make good racing cars. How about the R390 GT1, or the 787B that won LeMans (euro territory) in 1991. There are others that I cant recall right now
btw, I don't recall Germany ever having a gentleman's agreement, limiting the hp ratings on their cars.
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both those cossie arnt english in england we drive on the right there both LHD and the escort cossie had dutch platesComment
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Yeah, sorry for further attacking this quote, but again it doesnt make any sense. There was never a three rotor rx7 sold to the public. Who is the performance division that sells the 600hp golf GTI? I know there is one, but I guess I will have to look it up for you. And again, I think we were saying, excluding aftermarket. Any car can be made awesome. I could fix up a geo to smoke anything on the road, doesnt make it a good car or comperable to a Supra, Skyline, Porsche, or BMW. Oh and Ive seen 1000 hp bimmers. 3 series at that.Originally posted by fc3slideways
im gunna definetly say japan is better than germany unless you are goin for super swank comfort, but performance wise theres so many like 600+hp supras and skylines and tri-rotor rx7s i havent seen ne vws or bimmers put up that much hp lately and get sideways anywhere, or even look half as good. so yea def jdm over dtm
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hahaha what? like a metro?! u know they only have 3 cylinder.. that would be interesting... hahaha anyone got pics of THAT??Originally posted by hachiroku-fc3s
I could fix up a geo to smoke anything on the road...Comment
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I disagree with you on this. Porche has put that horsepower to the ground many times. Also did you know that the Mclaren F1 engine is a BMW engine?Originally posted by nedinic
e30drifter your right i lived in germany for 10 years and you post was corretct.
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im gunna definetly say japan is better than germany unless you are goin for super swank comfort, but performance wise theres so many like 600+hp supras and skylines and tri-rotor rx7s i havent seen ne vws or bimmers put up that much hp lately and get sideways anywhere, or even look half as good. so yea def jdm over dtm
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what are you talking about.? there are bimmers over 600 hp and bimmers are naturaly aspired which means no turbo and it has like 300 something hp and if you put a turbo on that and more mods it can go over 600 hp.
Same with porches they are naturally aspired to.
The closesd comparison i could think of is M3 csl vs. Nsx [/B]Comment
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Who said you had to keep the stock 3 cylinder motor in it?Originally posted by delasoul909
hahaha what? like a metro?! u know they only have 3 cylinder.. that would be interesting... hahaha anyone got pics of THAT??Comment
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well if we talkin stock i dk wat i would pick there are both real nice cars for each but ne one look how much it costs to replace brakes on a porsche lately? i think its gunna come down to personal preferance and how big your wallet is.Comment
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I did. That's why I said that in my earlier LONG post.Originally posted by Frostbyte
Also did you know that the Mclaren F1 engine is a BMW engine?
I believe the Mclaren's BMW motor puts out about 624hp I believe. The Mclaren F1 LM puts out a little more than that too, but like fc3slideways said it's really all about your preference and how much money you can and are willing to spend.
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Japan made better drifting car. European made really fast car since european doesn't care.Comment
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Nismo R-34 ur dumb you dont know what your talking about
If you take a metro and and swap another engine it, it probly wwouldnt be considered a metro, right ?
Some of you guys are nameing like Nismo skyline's and 3 rotors rx7 those are more of racing cars kinda or higly tuned cars.
you could compare those cars to like Hamman tuned cars, like the BMW's or mercedes's or porches, or the RUF and the gemballa.
they are all fast.
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well im still gunna keep my opion that jdm is better even though both have there good points and badComment
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yup, this was supposed to be the 'M8' thats tucked away in in BMW'a Poison vaultOriginally posted by Frostbyte
I disagree with you on this. Porche has put that horsepower to the ground many times. Also did you know that the Mclaren F1 engine is a BMW engine?
never got released to the public, but there was a picture of the orig. engine that was leaked.....claims of 800hp NA from the factory in the M8 but the idea was scrapped and the CSI was created
It's like the holy grail for us 8er owners...often talked about, but never seen
JAPAN VS GERMAN cars? I never compare the two. but if I had to go one way or the other Id lean towards Germany. 150+mph, a Smooth ride and not even hear the engine straining is surreal.....
The way I see it:
- Hi performance Japanese cars make you feel like the Devil on the road.
- Hi performance German cars make you feel like a God
Hard choice huh?
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BMW's going sideways
Here in Cape Town there is a massive German prescence(car-wise). Hell we have the only E46 BMW in the world thats rallying. So its no surprise to see BMW's powersliding all over the show. Turbo-charging your beemer is the norm here, esp. the E36 M3 and 325is. Japan always does badly in our 'Germany vs. Japan' events, simply because evry1 goes for the germs. Anyways here are the pics, its alot of pics so hit STOP and go right down until u get "Sideways + Burnouts", then download them individually.
PS: I prefer Jap cars, esp old school Impreza GT'shttp://www.wpmc.co.za/SCC_Gallery.htm
Here are some local South African sites:
www.saracing.web.za
www.raceweb.cjb.net
www.dtmproductions.net
www.zoopedup.com
www.gticlub.co.za
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