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the great thing about forrest is that he always seems true to himself. and i think a part of that is running d1 which we all know how the drift avengers feel about that. he always seemed to try to get himself to make the d1 events. this is most likely the reason he was asked to leave.
or maybe its because he probably didnt want to run vertex. great decision by the way. the dmax kit is nice!!!
Originally posted by chrisfb View Postbut if they came up to me and asked if I needed help doing what I love, what's stopping me from saying yes? That's my opinion.
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Originally posted by OldSkool510 View PostWhy was the Drift Avengers best driver asked to leave? Was he too good to be an Avenger or what? He was probably your best hope to cause some serious damage in the world of drifting.
Both he and CJ have their own needs and we wish them well and I truly hope their dreams are fulfilled.
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Originally posted by deadpirate View Postthen why dont you tell us why he was asked to leave if we "dont know"
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Originally posted by Hach1r0k1d03 View Postthe great thing about forrest is that he always seems true to himself. and i think a part of that is running d1 which we all know how the drift avengers feel about that. he always seemed to try to get himself to make the d1 events. this is most likely the reason he was asked to leave.
or maybe its because he probably didnt want to run vertex. great decision by the way. the dmax kit is nice!!!
yeah i see what youre saying but i dont know if looking bad is what anybody loves to do.
There is no such thing as bad publicity. The only people on here that look bad is Ruth, James, and Dr.Z. The drivers on there team are getting help from Ruth. In return they run some stickers do some demos and videos, what ever else is involved. Regardless of what it is they are still DRIVING. I'm not to sure what Ruth gets out of it other than a tax write off. The thing I do not like is the threats, name calling, and general E Thugging. It is this that is giving Drift Avengers a bad name. What your doing for your drivers is a noble thing to do for friends and I would probably do the same if I had your cash flow.
Ruth, the people on this forum are ruthless (no pun intended) and will nit pick everything you and everyone else that is tied to you say (myself included). You hold the power to end this and ONLY you. This is not a threat don't somehow take it as one, I'm trying to give you some advise. Again this is my opinion.
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Originally posted by blaze1 View PostShe should get a new one, but mabey then you would be out of a job.
Ruth does extremely well for herself and I am proud to have her in my life. Your hate is a Fu@king disgrace, for a woman who does nothing but invest her money in helping making the world a cooler place she sure doesn't get appreciated for it. She does everything in this world based around what other people want out of life and all she asks for in return is the ability to take pride in it. Maybe she should be like every other rich jerk and instead of investing in fun businesses, she should just invest in what will make her money. To her, it is not about making the money, it is about the principle and enjoyment of what you are doing in life and at the end of the day feeling like you made a difference in the world. I am not going to go into crazy details but we have one of the coolest music studios in LA sitting right above the garage at Ruth's house. 3-6 mafia along with many other talented musicians are Ruth's friends and we have huge parties with really good quality people, where music is played and positive energy is spread to one another.
WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE......
and there is alot of people that are behind us 100%
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Official Rssponse from D1GP USA
Dear D1GP USA Fans,
As mentioned in previous blogs, D1GP USA made a clerical error in Miami that resulted in James Bondurant being moved from the 16th position to the 17th position. This clerical error was caught by our staff right away and immediately following the drivers meeting, prior to the top 16, we informed James Bondurant of the error which put him out of the top 16 competition and moved Will Parsons into the competition. We immediately moved into competition with the correct results.
Unfortunately, the events that have transpired since that time constitute a gross violation of the D1GP USA Rules and Regulations by James Bondurant, his team owner Ruth Surrey and his mechanic “Dr. Z.” as he is known (collectively the Parties). These violations include, but are not limited to:
D1GP USA Rulebook Re: Conduct
• refusing to cooperate with, interfering with, or obstructing the action of the Officials, Competition Director or others in the performance of their duties.
Infraction by the Parties:
• Attempting to coerce D1GP USA Officials and staff to overturn a judgment via text and phone messages during the May 30th event.
D1GP USA Rulebook Re: Conduct
• Public criticism of the event or the series, its Officials or Sponsors
Infraction by the Parties:
• Public and numerous posts on drifting.com by the team owner, mechanic and driver. These posts include allegations of cheating by judges, drug use by a certain judge and more. While the parties in question have been asked repeatedly by members of the forum and by D1GP USA to provide proof of such allegations, no proof has ever been produced by the Parties. It is our position that there is no proof and that this has been done in an attempt to defame the judge in question and the series for personal gain
D1GP USA Rulebook Re: Unsportsmanlike Conduct
• Inappropriate, objectionable, threatening, or profane language or gestures
Infraction by the Parties:
• On drifting.com James Bondurant has posted messages to fans re: meeting them with the implied intent to fight. This constitutes a threat. Ruth Surrey and “Dr. Z” have posted numerous messages implying profane language with the use of the word censored in lieu of profane language, whereas the drift fan can understand the underlying tone of the conversation being directed at them. Dr. Z. during an interview on Justin Banners radio show used racial slurs to describe Japanese people as “Orientals” and “Japs” in order to negatively describe the Japanese people.
At the request of our Competition Director, Terence Jenkins, I agreed to not move towards immediate disciplinary action in this matter, but rather to discuss this with the Parties over dinner before this escalated any further. We made every attempt to extend our hand, however those attempts were not welcomed and the infractions by the parties continued. It was only after we had exhausted every attempt to remedy the matter peacefully, that our Competition Director recommended formal disciplinary action. I have reviewed all the text messages, forum posts and radio broadcast very carefully and I have come to the following conclusion in this matter.
Drifting is a professional motorsport and the sanctioning bodies that produce such events are governed by rules and regulations. Those rules and regulations are in place to protect the drivers, teams, sponsors and the sport as a whole. It is critical that these rules and regulations be followed by participants and enforced by the series otherwise the point is lost and damages all who are involved in the sport.
While I want to support every driver, especially in their attempts to secure sponsorship as in the case with James and while James’ infractions are not as gross as the rest of the Parties, James must understand that he is responsible for his team members and that he has a responsibility to the sport above all else.
This is just a very sad day for me. I am personally embarrassed by the racial remarks made by my fellow countrymen in this matter. I am embarrassed that anyone in our series would act in such a way. I am embarrassed that I have to relay this information to D1GP Corporation in Japan. I am embarrassed that I have to tell Keiichi Tsuchiya of these infractions and I am sad that my first disciplinary action as President of D1GP USA must be so harsh. My ruling in this matter is as follows:
1) James Bondurant – Suspension of D1GP USA competition license for the 2009 season, loss of series points and a fine of $10,000. The remedy in order to compete in D1GP USA again after the suspension period and to waive the imposed fine is a formal letter of apology to fans on drifting.com, a personal meeting with Keiichi Tsuchiya, personal meeting with D1GP USA Competition Director Terence and only after all these requirements have been met will James be required to meet with D1GP USA President to discuss the rules and regulations of the event series in detail. It will then be at the discretion of D1GP USA President to grant a provisional license to re-enter D1GP USA.
2) Ruth Surrey and “Dr. Z” will never be allowed to be affiliated with D1GP USA again in any manner. There is no remedy.
3) No driver will be allowed to participate in D1GP USA while affiliated with the Parties
4) No member of our staff will be employed while affiliated with the Parties
5) Recommendation will be made by the President of D1GP USA to D1GP Corporation to uphold this disciplinary action within their series as well as their affiliate series’ around the world
6) These matters will be made known to all D1GP affiliates of any kind worldwide
In the matter of Adam Andretti and Takahiro Ueno regarding their involvement with the Parties, we cannot determine the extent of the relationship nor do we think that they are aware of the infractions and now the judgment as outlined above. We will be in contact with them to discuss these matters directly. We discussed this matter with Forrest Wang this afternoon and he is no longer affiliated, did not commit any offense and will remain on the D1GP USA series.
Rich Goodwin
President D1GP USA
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Originally posted by chrisfb View PostThere is no such thing as bad publicity. The only people on here that look bad is Ruth, James, and Dr.Z. The drivers on there team are getting help from Ruth. In return they run some stickers do some demos and videos, what ever else is involved. Regardless of what it is they are still DRIVING. I'm not to sure what Ruth gets out of it other than a tax write off. The thing I do not like is the threats, name calling, and general E Thugging. It is this that is giving Drift Avengers a bad name. What your doing for your drivers is a noble thing to do for friends and I would probably do the same if I had your cash flow.
Ruth, the people on this forum are ruthless (no pun intended) and will nit pick everything you and everyone else that is tied to you say (myself included). You hold the power to end this and ONLY you. This is not a threat don't somehow take it as one, I'm trying to give you some advise. Again this is my opinion.
Chris, we can be a bit threating and honestly Ruth and I both are used to being pushed around which makes us both very defensive at times.
Ruth went school for journalism and is a writer at heart. This forum has become a place for her to write and express herself. She loves a challenge and truly doesn't care what other people think. I have gotten on here and done my best to bring balance and reason to the situation, at this point we all just gonna haft to ride the wave ahead and see where it takes us.
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Originally posted by JBizzle View PostMr. Forsberg is right, you kids have alot to learn about how the real world works and how the game is played.
Chris, we can be a bit threating and honestly Ruth and I both are used to being pushed around which makes us both very defensive at times.
Ruth went school for journalism and is a writer at heart. This forum has become a place for her to write and express herself. She loves a challenge and truly doesn't care what other people think. I have gotten on here and done my best to bring balance and reason to the situation, at this point we all just gonna haft to ride the wave ahead and see where it takes us.
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Originally posted by JBizzle View PostMr. Forsberg is right, you kids have alot to learn about how the real world works and how the game is played.
Chris, we can be a bit threating and honestly Ruth and I both are used to being pushed around which makes us both very defensive at times.
Ruth went school for journalism and is a writer at heart. This forum has become a place for her to write and express herself. She loves a challenge and truly doesn't care what other people think. I have gotten on here and done my best to bring balance and reason to the situation, at this point we all just gonna haft to ride the wave ahead and see where it takes us.
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Originally posted by D1GP USA View PostDear D1GP USA Fans,
As mentioned in previous blogs, D1GP USA made a clerical error in Miami that resulted in James Bondurant being moved from the 16th position to the 17th position. This clerical error was caught by our staff right away and immediately following the drivers meeting, prior to the top 16, we informed James Bondurant of the error which put him out of the top 16 competition and moved Will Parsons into the competition. We immediately moved into competition with the correct results.
Unfortunately, the events that have transpired since that time constitute a gross violation of the D1GP USA Rules and Regulations by James Bondurant, his team owner Ruth Surrey and his mechanic “Dr. Z.” as he is known (collectively the Parties). These violations include, but are not limited to:
D1GP USA Rulebook Re: Conduct
• refusing to cooperate with, interfering with, or obstructing the action of the Officials, Competition Director or others in the performance of their duties.
Infraction by the Parties:
• Attempting to coerce D1GP USA Officials and staff to overturn a judgment via text and phone messages during the May 30th event.
D1GP USA Rulebook Re: Conduct
• Public criticism of the event or the series, its Officials or Sponsors
Infraction by the Parties:
• Public and numerous posts on drifting.com by the team owner, mechanic and driver. These posts include allegations of cheating by judges, drug use by a certain judge and more. While the parties in question have been asked repeatedly by members of the forum and by D1GP USA to provide proof of such allegations, no proof has ever been produced by the Parties. It is our position that there is no proof and that this has been done in an attempt to defame the judge in question and the series for personal gain
D1GP USA Rulebook Re: Unsportsmanlike Conduct
• Inappropriate, objectionable, threatening, or profane language or gestures
Infraction by the Parties:
• On drifting.com James Bondurant has posted messages to fans re: meeting them with the implied intent to fight. This constitutes a threat. Ruth Surrey and “Dr. Z” have posted numerous messages implying profane language with the use of the word censored in lieu of profane language, whereas the drift fan can understand the underlying tone of the conversation being directed at them. Dr. Z. during an interview on Justin Banners radio show used racial slurs to describe Japanese people as “Orientals” and “Japs” in order to negatively describe the Japanese people.
At the request of our Competition Director, Terence Jenkins, I agreed to not move towards immediate disciplinary action in this matter, but rather to discuss this with the Parties over dinner before this escalated any further. We made every attempt to extend our hand, however those attempts were not welcomed and the infractions by the parties continued. It was only after we had exhausted every attempt to remedy the matter peacefully, that our Competition Director recommended formal disciplinary action. I have reviewed all the text messages, forum posts and radio broadcast very carefully and I have come to the following conclusion in this matter.
Drifting is a professional motorsport and the sanctioning bodies that produce such events are governed by rules and regulations. Those rules and regulations are in place to protect the drivers, teams, sponsors and the sport as a whole. It is critical that these rules and regulations be followed by participants and enforced by the series otherwise the point is lost and damages all who are involved in the sport.
While I want to support every driver, especially in their attempts to secure sponsorship as in the case with James and while James’ infractions are not as gross as the rest of the Parties, James must understand that he is responsible for his team members and that he has a responsibility to the sport above all else.
This is just a very sad day for me. I am personally embarrassed by the racial remarks made by my fellow countrymen in this matter. I am embarrassed that anyone in our series would act in such a way. I am embarrassed that I have to relay this information to D1GP Corporation in Japan. I am embarrassed that I have to tell Keiichi Tsuchiya of these infractions and I am sad that my first disciplinary action as President of D1GP USA must be so harsh. My ruling in this matter is as follows:
1) James Bondurant – Suspension of D1GP USA competition license for the 2009 season, loss of series points and a fine of $10,000. The remedy in order to compete in D1GP USA again after the suspension period and to waive the imposed fine is a formal letter of apology to fans on drifting.com, a personal meeting with Keiichi Tsuchiya, personal meeting with D1GP USA Competition Director Terence and only after all these requirements have been met will James be required to meet with D1GP USA President to discuss the rules and regulations of the event series in detail. It will then be at the discretion of D1GP USA President to grant a provisional license to re-enter D1GP USA.
2) Ruth Surrey and “Dr. Z” will never be allowed to be affiliated with D1GP USA again in any manner. There is no remedy.
3) No driver will be allowed to participate in D1GP USA while affiliated with the Parties
4) No member of our staff will be employed while affiliated with the Parties
5) Recommendation will be made by the President of D1GP USA to D1GP Corporation to uphold this disciplinary action within their series as well as their affiliate series’ around the world
6) These matters will be made known to all D1GP affiliates of any kind worldwide
In the matter of Adam Andretti and Takahiro Ueno regarding their involvement with the Parties, we cannot determine the extent of the relationship nor do we think that they are aware of the infractions and now the judgment as outlined above. We will be in contact with them to discuss these matters directly. We discussed this matter with Forrest Wang this afternoon and he is no longer affiliated, did not commit any offense and will remain on the D1GP USA series.
Rich Goodwin
President D1GP USA
You guys are out of your minds, Mark (Dr. Z) is not a racist and the word oriental does not constitute such accusations. The japanese he refers to comes off in derogatory way because he truly feels that the D1 series run from japan is predjedice towards americans. I know a fellow american who can vouch for the wrongs done by the japanese, so if you want to try and take this to court or something, then you prepare yourself for a fight. This is about having a true professional drift series out there with no comprimises and D1GP USA is definately not that.
Ruth has done nothing wrong but stir up the pot on a forum, for you to post such allegations publicly before telling us, shows the negligence, ill intent and it is pretty obvious you are grabbing at straws to try and save what little ground you have built to stand on in your series.
As for me, I have never said one thing against your decision to take me out of top 16, both Terence and Adam will vouch for that. I believed it the moment I was told and Adam explained it to exactly what happened. I have gotten on this forum to support my friends and try to make sense of everything that has happened. Look, I am on here doing my best to do the right thing but when people attack my friends, I am going to defend them. Cavi Mike says REAL profane remarks and I will be da@ned if I am gonna sit around and let it happen.
So whatever you are trying to acclompish of this I can about guarantee it isn't going to end pretty Rich. I have left you alone and done my best to pull the dogs off D1GP USA, now you have just tried to declare a war with us, so I guess that is what it is.
That isn't a threat, that is just the facts.
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Originally posted by I_SMELL_SMOKE View Postfukin drama galore..seriously..don't people know you can't argue with a tweeker?..they never quit or admit wrong..read back and look at all the personality changes in their posts..
one minute pist and angry, spittin out famous names and doller amounts the next minute all lovey dovey and appologetic but quick to get angry again ( not sayin you are ALL doing drugs but i suspect a couple of your group dabble in the not so right side of the LAW) especialy the old hippy types
anyways,
STOP this krap and shut down this post..can the Drift Avengers ever expect to get the respect they think they deserve?
NO!. so "F"em' they ostrisized themselves. At the next event booo the sh!t out of them..
the people have spoken..or at least i have
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but he has stopped and proud to say he has been cleansing the toxins out of his body and trying to make a new start for himself.
As far as law abiding citizens, we walk the same line that everyone else in this world has to do.
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Originally posted by JBizzle View PostAll this drifting.com stuff has gotten you this shaken up Rich?!
You guys are out of your minds, Mark (Dr. Z) is not a racist and the word oriental does not constitute such accusations. The japanese he refers to comes off in derogatory way because he truly feels that the D1 series run from japan is predjedice towards americans. I know a fellow american who can vouch for the wrongs done by the japanese, so if you want to try and take this to court or something, then you prepare yourself for a fight. This is about having a true professional drift series out there with no comprimises and D1GP USA is definately not that.
Ruth has done nothing wrong but stir up the pot on a forum, for you to post such allegations publicly before telling us, shows the negligence, ill intent and it is pretty obvious you are grabbing at straws to try and save what little ground you have built to stand on in your series.
As for me, I have never said one thing against your decision to take me out of top 16, both Terence and Adam will vouch for that. I believed it the moment I was told and Adam explained it to exactly what happened. I have gotten on this forum to support my friends and try to make sense of everything that has happened. Look, I am on here doing my best to do the right thing but when people attack my friends, I am going to defend them. Cavi Mike says REAL profane remarks and I will be da@ned if I am gonna sit around and let it happen.
So whatever you are trying to acclompish of this I can about guarantee it isn't going to end pretty Rich. I have left you alone and done my best to pull the dogs off D1GP USA, now you have just tried to declare a war with us, so I guess that is what it is.
That isn't a threat, that is just the facts.
That isn't a threat, that is just the facts." u guys never learn or what?
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Originally posted by JBizzle View PostJust for the record, Dr. Z has used many drugs in his lifetime and was a free loving hippy without a doubt...
but he has stopped and proud to say he has been cleansing the toxins out of his body and trying to make a new start for himself.
As far as law abiding citizens, we walk the same line that everyone else in this world has to do.
My son and I were abused by his father, who was a coke addict, and there are no exceptions to this. My son has no other family besides me.. we're all we have. Nothing in this world, or noone in this world is going to get in the way of me giving him a chance at a life of happiness.
I hope you understand. Please dont start bashing my son on here. He is a child. thank you.
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