Do you consider this drifting?

[jboss]

Dont forget to also READ before you respond!!

Read it again champ.
Premises:
1)You can't drift without initiating a turn---True
2)You can not drift before turning---True
3)A turn only occurs once it has been initiated---true
4)A turn occurs without situational context (i.e. a turn either occurs or does not. It doesnt matter where the road goes or where the apex is etc)---True

Conclusion from 1 and 2:
5)You can not start drifting before you begin turning---True

Conclusion from 1, 2 and 3:
6)You can not start drfiting before a turn is initiated---True

Conclusion from 1-6:
7)It is impossible to drift before a turn----True


Now, since I know you didnt read it well the first or the second time through you will find it all very confusing and say to me, "But, people drift down the straights all the time and often begin drifting well before the track atually turns."

And, my response will be, "Good, you have been paying attention but you still can't read. Look, when a car is drifted down a straight does it turn? Yes! When a car is drifted before the track begins to turn is the car turning? YES!!! Sure, the radius of the turn is wide but the car is by no means going straight down the track sideways."

NEXT!!!

[Ghost of Duluth]

Um..................BAM!!!!

[Drift For Food]

Really? You can't drift straight? lol

lol

[Drift For Food]

"1)You can't drift without initiating a turn---True
2)You can not drift before turning---True
3)A turn only occurs once it has been initiated---true
4)A turn occurs without situational context (i.e. a turn either occurs or does not. It doesnt matter where the road goes or where the apex is etc)---True"

1) yes, you do have to seperate the front and rear tires from the center travel axis, i.e. turn. However, after initiated, you could essentiall drive straight.

2) same as (1) actually, just worded differently.

3) common sense, always true

4) again common sense, always true

This is what I get out of it. It's like going to a fortune teller and they tell you stuff that can only be true, lol. Not to rip on you or anything, it's just my understanding from the context.

In my mind, a drift has to be initiated before a turn. While drifting a car needs to be sideways at an angle higher than the turn angle. This means that the drift has to occur before the car actually starts to turn around the corner. If the turn happened first, the drift angle could be less than the turn angle, i.e. driving away from the corner, and we'd still somehow turn around the corner. Now I'm just playing with words, but think about it.

[driftfreak]

guess none of ya all have heard of manji?

[MrodDrft]

u can drift before a turn

[MrodDrft]

Originally posted by Drift For Food


In my mind, a drift has to be initiated before a turn. While drifting a car needs to be sideways at an angle higher than the turn angle. This means that the drift has to occur before the car actually starts to turn around the corner.

[Drift For Food]

You like that?

[Misthael]

Like sombody posted before. dirft the word implies sideways movement which could not happen before your car begins to turn. An actual drift is pretty much the turn. I was under the impression that drifting was about physics so if it is then drifting does not happen until your car is turning/rotating. If it ain't about physics tehn I'm an *Censored**Censored**Censored* and should be terminated... or just spanked by a really hot chick. Mmmmmmm... hot chick.

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[Misthael]

Originally posted by Drift For Food
In my mind, a drift has to be initiated before a turn. While drifting a car needs to be sideways at an angle higher than the turn angle. This means that the drift has to occur before the car actually starts to turn around the corner.

Okay. so if this is true... don't you have to turn to make your car be at that angle before the turn? Then that would mean that you're still not drifting until a turn actually occurs.

[nissanguy_24]

the below, to me, apears to be alot of symantics brought up to make someone feel like they know more about drifting then another.

Originally posted by jboss
Dont forget to also READ before you respond!!

Read it again champ.
Premises:
1)You can't drift without initiating a turn---True
2)You can not drift before turning---True
3)A turn only occurs once it has been initiated---true
4)A turn occurs without situational context (i.e. a turn either occurs or does not. It doesnt matter where the road goes or where the apex is etc)---True

Conclusion from 1 and 2:
5)You can not start drifting before you begin turning---True

Conclusion from 1, 2 and 3:
6)You can not start drfiting before a turn is initiated---True

Conclusion from 1-6:
7)It is impossible to drift before a turn----True


Now, since I know you didnt read it well the first or the second time through you will find it all very confusing and say to me, "But, people drift down the straights all the time and often begin drifting well before the track atually turns."

And, my response will be, "Good, you have been paying attention but you still can't read. Look, when a car is drifted down a straight does it turn? Yes! When a car is drifted before the track begins to turn is the car turning? YES!!! Sure, the radius of the turn is wide but the car is by no means going straight down the track sideways."

NEXT!!!

[Unclever Name]

Originally posted by jboss
Because, a turn is not defined by the markings on the pavement or the shape of the asphalt on the terrain but by when you initiate and end the turn.

You may begin turning well before or well after the pavement turns. AND, it is IMPOSSIBLE to drift without turning and therefore IMPOSSIBLE to start drifting before you turn. AND, because a turn starts when you start it, it is IMPOSSIBLE to drift before a turn.

I really wish everyone here would THINK BEFORE they type.

yeah well i am so sorry to say but i believe u r sooo wrong. dont be so difficult on the whole 'turn' deal. i mean, that so childish. i have no idea how old u r but i am guessing ur a lil older than me. now who said u drift BEFORE YOU turn? i believe the statsments were something along the lines of....the slide should start before THE turn. please tell me u graduated HS. dont get things mixed up in here. there is really no point of argueing. we all have our own ideas of how stuff should be. and i hope maybe next time u will take ur OWN advice and THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE.
Peace

[Ghost of Duluth]

First off, JBoss KNOWS what he is talking about.


Secondly, who in the crap do any one here think they are saying what Drifting is or is not. 100% of everyone here was not around when it was "invented", 95% of you don't live in Japan, the birthplace of the sport, 75% of you can't even Drift one corner, let alone hook 3 together and 50% of you can't even legally drive. So argueing whether or not a turn is initiated before or after the curve is like 3 homeless people arguing whether the Ritz has dual toilets in the honeymoon suite. It doesn't matter.

Just go out and drive people. Go out and enjoy the sport that you all so pettily argue about. These are goofy threads and pointless squabbles. They don't better the sport or help it to mature into what you all want it to be. They only make people mad at one another and waste bandwidth. If someone wants to drift a FF or AWD then who are any of you to tell them it isn't Drifting?
Sounds hypocritical to me.

[jung]

true da yo

[Unclever Name]

Originally posted by Ghost of Duluth
First off, JBoss KNOWS what he is talking about.

Just go out and drive people. Go out and enjoy the sport that you all so pettily argue about.These are goofy threads and pointless squabbles. They don't better the sport or help it to mature into what you all want it to be. They only make people mad at one another and waste bandwidth. If someone wants to drift a FF or AWD then who are any of you to tell them it isn't Drifting?
Sounds hypocritical to me.

i concur. i wasnt raggin on Jboss either, just merely speaking my point of view....just like he was. so dont get all up on my a$$ for it