yay! a place for n00bs :)

[Vinsanity]

wow I wish this forum was here last week

but anyways, I've noticed that THE most common n00b question has been "what car should I get" and I have a feeling that most people mean "I want such and such a car and I want you guys to share your genius knowledge to me about it" or something or other.
anyways, I'll attempt to share my limited knowledge about some cars I've thought about drifting (in simple terms )

Toyota Trueno AE86
price: cheap-medium
HP: low
weight: light
suspension: solid axle

Toyota Supra MkIII
price: medium
HP: medium (NA) / high (Turbo)
weight: medium
suspension: IRS

Toyota Supra MkIV
price: expensive
HP: high
weight: heavy
suspension: IRS

Toyota Celica 3rd gen.
price: cheap
HP: low
weight: medium (low?)
suspension: solid axle (correct me if I'm wrong)

Toyota MR2
price: cheap (1st gen) / medium (2nd gen)
HP: low (NA) / high (Turbo/supercharged)
weight: low
suspension: IRS
*mid-engine = tail likes to hang out longer

Nissan 240SX S13
price: cheap
HP: medium (KA24)
weight: light
suspension: IRS

Nissan 240SX S14
price: medium-expensive
HP: medium (KA24)
weight: light
suspension: IRS

Nissan 300ZX Z32
price: medium (NA) / expensive (Turbo)
HP: high
weight: heavy
suspension: IRS

Mazda RX-7 FC
price: medium
HP: medium (N/A) / high (Turbo)
weight: light
suspension: IRS

Mazda RX-7 FD
price: expensive
HP: high
weight: light
suspension: IRS

Mazda Miata
price: cheap-medium
HP: low
weight: light
suspension: IRS

Ford Mustang 87-93
price: cheap-medium
HP: high (5.0L)
weight: heavy
suspension: solid axle

Chevrolet Camaro 82-92
price: cheap-medium
HP: high (350 cid)
weight: heavy
suspension: solid axle

Volvo 240 series
price: cheap-medium
HP: low
weight: heavy
suspension: solid axle (from what I think I remember)

a few more things:
light weight > high HP
solid axle > IRS (independent rear suspension) (in general, for drifting purposes)
LSD: very important

feel free to add

[Brothaman240]

86 arent really cheap, stock rusted pos 18 year old cars go from 2000-4000

[sdtouge]

i am new to drifting and i want a 240sx s13, i wouldnt mind a old corolla but i couldnt find them in the auto trader

[Vinsanity]

yes I should mention that AE86's are quite hard to find, especially a good example of one

[sdtouge]

there seems to be a lot of 240's for sale but a lot seem to be automatic or sohc, i really want the 16 valve dohc instaed of the 8 or 12 valve sohc
one day

[blargonator]

you forgot celicas and MR2s

[conandd]

newbie question:

without LSD u still can drift but with less power at the exit ?

Im planning on a 1.8L miata ..but hardly find one with LSD..

newbie question #2:

solid axle ? IRS? what does IRS stand for ? (I can only think of Internal Revenue Service )

one more:

what year of celica re u talking about?
4wd ?

[sdtouge]

i think the awd celicas are 88 0r 87 i think they arwe turbo also

[Vinsanity]

Originally posted by conandd
newbie question:

without LSD u still can drift but with less power at the exit ?

newbie question #2:

solid axle ? IRS? what does IRS stand for ? (I can only think of Internal Revenue Service )

one more:

what year of celica re u talking about?
4wd ?

1. yes. w/o LSD, your wheels won't be spinning as fast as you drift, thus you won't be going around the corner with as much speed.

2. IRS = independent rear suspension. IRS is better for grip driving, and (iirc) easier to control. but it's easier to get the rear to step out with a solid axle setup.

3. 3rd gen. Celica = 1982-1985
these were the last RWD models. the 4WD models were 1986-1993 but they're rare, and AWD drifts are hard to pull off, especially for us n00bs

anyone who knows more...PLEASE feel free to contribute

[sdtouge]

i thought the awd celicas were turbo

[Ziptyed]

don't hate on auto SOHC 240's, that's what I just got. It won't stay like that for long though. I plan on swappin a CA18DET in it and changing it to a 5spd. But first I'll practice power overs, and inertia drifts. (preferably in the rain)

[nissanguy_24]

Work with braking drift. I was pretty skilled at those with my auto DOHC S13... and rock on! auto teaches you weight transfer techniques i feel alot of guys skip when learning with manuals... Going straight to the clutching techniques.

[prodigy]

Originally posted by sdtouge
i thought the awd celicas were turbo

The GT-4s are turbo. So yes.

[Ziptyed]

hey thanks nissanguy thats a really good point. I'll just leave it auto for a while.(plus I have no money)lol.

[RotaDrift]

don't forget the 1st gen rx-7's there light wieght, dirt cheap (200 for mine with a bad clutch), low hp but quick cuz there light, redline starts at 7 grand