KA, 200 HP without turbo?

[crusTE72corolla]

Shows what ya'll know! That dyno sheet is FAKER than Pams Titts! I love it when stupid people (especially ones I know) display their lack of education in front of people who know how an engine (not to mention a dyno) actually works.

[GRiDRaceTech]

Thanks for playing, but no. The car was Alex Chang's S13 coupe with only an AEM intake prior to the exhaust. Alex is quite well known in the NA KA and S13 coupe circles, and is incredibly knowledgeable.

That dyno is the real deal.

[Ris4drift]

Originally posted by crusTE72corolla
Shows what ya'll know! That dyno sheet is FAKER than Pams Titts! I love it when stupid people (especially ones I know) display their lack of education in front of people who know how an engine (not to mention a dyno) actually works.

this coming from someone who claims it is physicaly imposible to boost an engine with high compression. dyno isnt fake, theres more than one of them floating aroudn the internet.

[Ris4drift]

Originally posted by GRiDRaceTech
Thanks for playing, but no. The car was Alex Chang's S13 coupe with only an AEM intake prior to the exhaust. Alex is quite well known in the NA KA and S13 coupe circles, and is incredibly knowledgeable.

That dyno is the real deal.

he did a dyno of that also? i thoguth this was the other dyno sheet from zilvia on i think a maroon car.

[Ris4drift]

Originally posted by OH240SE
ok it may be dyno proven, but aren't you forgetting that its most likely a silenced 3"? Probably also dynoed with headers a good intake and no cat. Indeed that will free up hp, i agree with that.

I however dont agree with your elitest attitudes and ya'll can keep taking turns sucking eachother off, and i'll continue to squash those 3in pipes with my foot when i walk by them.

So talk all the garbage you want, I tried to help the dude who made this thread. Maybe next time you try to get into a pissing contest about which stranger on drifting.com is more of a n00b, you'll remember that ur additude just makes you look dumb.

I'm done with this thread, hopefully you are too.

sorry for hurting your feelings, welcome to the internet. but seriously next time dont post incorrect facts, then argue facts posted by others. do your homework next time.

[crusTE72corolla]

If you know anything you could look at that dyno sheet for 15 sec. and tell that there is no way it is accurate. But im not going to make it easy on you. You will have to go learn and figure it out on your own. Its right in front of your face though so it shouldnt be too hard.

And Mike I never said boost and relatively high compression WONT work together. Just that stupid people like you wont pull it off for very long.

[GRiDRaceTech]

Actually, how about you "make it easy" on us and enlighten us as to exactly WHY that dyno is fake... using reliable web sources, please.

[mechaniac]

go to www.freshalloy.com or www.zilvia.net or www.ziptied.com and ask anyone who Mav1178 is and tell them why you think the dyno chart of the 3inch exhaust on a NA KA is fake. Please report your findings back to us because we'll be patiently waiting.

[Ris4drift]

dont argue with the corolla guy. this is the guy that told a police department for humble texas they didnt have legal authority to tell us we couldnt drift at an event at humble texas's civic center due to rain because they were out of their juristiction.

and casey, you DID say it was impossible to boost with high compression. i told you i was builing my ka-t with stock compression you shitted your pants and told me it was impossible to boost with high compression and i pointed out turbo hondas running around, you still argued it was impossible.

too many stupid people talking in this thread who cant accept facts

[josenr7]

ka performance

man too much drama, no but thanks i'll probably start looking for parts sometime soon.

[spock]

How about individual throttle bodies? Those are always cool.

[Ris4drift]

Itb's can help add a lot of air but the problem with ka as already stated is the stroke is too long, and total lack of aftermarket stuff.

if someone had money to pioneer a destroked ka with itb's huge custom cams and could actually rev you could probably build a 200whp ka no problem. there aer b16s putting 200whp to the ground, but someones gonna have to do a lot of pioneering to get the ka to that point. right now the aftermarket isnt there and the homework hasnt been done.

[mechaniac]

there are guys with ITBs on KAs already. There are SCCA GT cars with over 200 hp naturally aspirated. There is a lot of history with the KA motors. Just because it wasn't published in Super Street or Sport Compact Car doesn't mean it hasn't been done. 200+ NA KAs are out there.

For the regular daily driver though, destroking and beefing up the bottom end isn't all it's worth, especially for the minimal gains. Just leave the KA internals alone and slap on your usual bolt ons and maybe cams and a port polish at the most. (170+ at the wheels can be attained with just bolt ons) My KA only has a 3inch exhaust, MSD ignition, and K&N filter, and I don't have any problems drifting it, or leaving more power cars behind on the twisties.

[Ris4drift]

Originally posted by mechaniac
there are guys with ITBs on KAs already. There are SCCA GT cars with over 200 hp naturally aspirated. There is a lot of history with the KA motors. Just because it wasn't published in Super Street or Sport Compact Car doesn't mean it hasn't been done. 200+ NA KAs are out there.

afaik most those are high compression single cams. although the heads are interchangable most the ones ive seen have been single cams.

[mechaniac]

There are duals too. But a streetable 200hp NA KA is costly to build.

High HP 4 cylinder NA engines in general suck for daily driving. Too loud, high revving, short power band. etc. etc.

You can slap a small turbo on a KA, and make more HP already than spending thousands of trying to build a high hp KA.