Need advice on tires

[USDRFTR]

What differential are you running? open, lsd, clutch type, welded?

[akuma S14]

I run thoes same tires Cooper Zeon 2XS in a 215/40/17. My car is an S13 with similar power and weight. The Coopers take the heat really well, much better than alot of other tires that I've run that seem to just delaminate and fall apart before the rubber is gone. They smoke just fine.

Your spin problem may be setup related or driving. But it's really hard without knowing exactly what your setup is. Sticky tires will help though.

Cooper Tires are #1

[HoosierDrifter]

What differential are you running? open, lsd, clutch type, welded?

vlsd

coopers huh... i hope you guys arent just telln me this to advertise for them

[Mike Peters]

even though im "sponsored" by cooper when i say they are extremely consistent, last a decent while and dont smoke im not lying. however if i said they were grippy or the best tire for drifting that would be an all out lie, but for the price they are awesome, due to the sheer cheapness, and they are very very very consistent, but wont offer the smoke/grip of some other tires. but thye are very very very consistent, and will last a good while. grip is good for a 280 treadwear tire and the 3 ply sidewall results in good turn in etc etc. but again its a 280 treadwear tire so the grip isnt crazy sticky like azenis/R's would be, adn they dont smoke a ton.

[HoosierDrifter]

even though im "sponsored" by cooper when i say they are extremely consistent, last a decent while and dont smoke im not lying. however if i said they were grippy or the best tire for drifting that would be an all out lie, but for the price they are awesome, due to the sheer cheapness, and they are very very very consistent, but wont offer the smoke/grip of some other tires. but thye are very very very consistent, and will last a good while. grip is good for a 280 treadwear tire and the 3 ply sidewall results in good turn in etc etc. but again its a 280 treadwear tire so the grip isnt crazy sticky like azenis/R's would be, adn they dont smoke a ton.

all those "verys" are maken my eyes hurt lol. why would you care about the amount of smoke? i dont need somthin mega sticky... but for my rear tire width only being 225mm maybe i will need somthin stickier. i will definately look into coopers.. they sound like a good "intermediate" tire... which is exactly what i need. Thanks for all of your advice guys.

[D1 DRIFTER]

best of luck man but ur best bet is to play around with tires shoot even try to pick up used falkens coopers bridgestone anything and test them out see how u like

[Mike Peters]

all those "verys" are maken my eyes hurt lol. why would you care about the amount of smoke?

no smoke is no fun

[HoosierDrifter]

no smoke is no fun

no smoke no fun? who cares.. sh!t..i dont. do you get better scores with more smoke? if so, someone please explain to me why more smoke matters in scoreing. and dont give me that fan pleasing bs.

[driftersil80]

So....you may not get better scores for smoking....but it its FUN. Tire smoke is a HUGE part of the "excitement" of drifting. When you see those giant clouds of smoke being generated, theres something that really grabs your attention and makes your heart pound. It is an important aspect of the showmanship of drifting. And really...all drifting IS is showmanship. I mean think about it....would drifting REALLY be as exciting if the cars had NO smoke coming from the tires? It would not.

[Piner]

yeah and then why would kumho go to all the trouble to make red smoking tires if nobody liked tire smoke

[dreamdrivedrift]

some people say drifting is about style, speed, line. angle and smoke are all included in the style aspect! why else would people run crazy body kits and huge gt wings?

[HoosierDrifter]

yea smoke is cool... duh... but im talkin about scoring. what does that have to do with driver skill? we all know that the mega powerhouse machines have a huge advantage when it comes to tire smoke

[Mike Peters]

yea smoke is cool... duh... but im talkin about scoring. what does that have to do with driver skill? we all know that the mega powerhouse machines have a huge advantage when it comes to tire smoke

actually its more in the tires than anything. but i do agree it shouldn't be judged criteria as due to manufacturing processes some tires do smoke a lot less than others, smoke is also affected by pavement/and a lot of other things. but yeah, its just not as fun and jawdropping witout a ton of smoke.

its like run wihtout smoke -


same run, with huge plumes of smoke and smoke billowing out of the fenders so you cant even see the rear wheels/tires-

[hatebbobbarker]

smoke depends on the car, if a corolla isnt smoking alot the judges understand, but most other cars the judges expect alot of smoke.

[BenR]

yea smoke is cool... duh... but im talkin about scoring. what does that have to do with driver skill? we all know that the mega powerhouse machines have a huge advantage when it comes to tire smoke

If someone has good speed, smoke is usually a very easy visual clue, to indicate angle and commitment to the line.

If you see two identical cars on identical lines, with identical speed, one car is making smoke and the other isn't then the driver of the car not making smoke is not fully on the throttle.

The tires are only going to smoke if you have a big differential between the tirespeed on it's plane of travel in relation to the vehicle speed on it's plane of travel. While power is a big help with this, you can make smoke with a stock powered miata, or AE86.

Usually you'll make smoke if you hold the throttle down and carry a big angle. In lower powered cars you need momentum along with that.

The Coopers while not the easiest tires to smoke, can smoke just fine. You have to just drive them a little different.