240vs.miatavs.FC3svs.FB(firtscar)?

[X-nobody]

MrodDrft, the list is out of the Import Racer DRIFTING magazine

[X-nobody]

Hachiroku-fc3s, you're taking this way too personally!

I'm not dismissing the FC3S (not mention all the other smoke and flames your shooting out) I'm trying to understand it!!
What's a killer setup for an FC3S?? What can I get for it?
I've mostly only known FC3S as drag cars and a few track racers.

D1 was a perfect example of how a lightweight well-balanced car can take on modern hightech cars.

Oh sure, for a first drfit car on a budget.. we shouldn't talk about pros or supermods and stuff.... I'm not a pro.. most us probably aren't.. I bet most dream to be!! so lets try to make this happen but how?? well a good start is gettin the car for yourself!

I'd like to get a car that's good out of the box and then can be turned into super drift machine down the road. Well a lot of cars could do that just what makes the FC3S better suited to an individual.

Something initially against 240's is that some S13's have HICAS (4 wheel steering) on them which some consider a severe hinderance to drifiting... so you could end up spending $200 to disable HICAS..

Btw, you haven't given me an example of a killer drift setup for the FC3S...

[X-nobody]

StreetKid,

Tein does make very good suspension. Tein's HE-series coilover which is designed for drifting. Its only available for the FC, S13 & S14.

I have some friends that feel JIC-Magic makes better suspension system but then again this is from honda track racers. Also note they both can be rebuilt when the seals go. A good investment some companies don't offer repairs.

As for a first suspension... well I hate buying things twice so I'd probably go get the TEIN/JIC's.

You could try for some kyb/agx shocks and some eibach springs.. it'll be a bit cheaper than teins. also depending on what condition that car is in it may need new suspension soon, especially after the harshness of driftting...

[Feint]

http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/turboconversion.htm

Plenty of FC's are putting it sideways in Japan.

D1...FC..yup

[nissanguy_24]

Originally posted by X-nobody
Something initially against 240's is that some S13's have HICAS (4 wheel steering) on them which some consider a severe hinderance to drifiting... so you could end up spending $200 to disable HICAS..

Btw, you haven't given me an example of a killer drift setup for the FC3S...

I gotsta defend my babies...

Only the hatchback S13s came with Hicas, and even then only a very very small precent did, im going to guess 5 percent to 1 percent. If you do get the hicas system you may also have VLSD on your S13, and we know how rare those are.

So its not something you have to worry about, just check to the right of the steering collum on the dash board, actualy in the insturment display, you have 10 lights, 5 on one side, and 5 on the other.

On the right there are 5 symbles, on the left there are only 2, if it has hicas it will also have an Extra hicas symble. I assume one is for the turbo on models equiped with it, perhaps the other is for the LSD, i really dont know sence so few american S13s had these options.

anyways. just thought i would clear that up.

[X-nobody]

well i did say "some"...

hatch only??? i though I've seen some coupes with HICAS..
must be some weird canada onlything..
You guys got 4 bolts on the s14??

Though in the defense of HICAS some people argue you don't notice when drifiting.. haven't tried one with it...

[nissanguy_24]

Let me defend the FCs here. You will see mostly 240sx and AE86s drifting in America, specificly southern california, they are by far the most popular drift cars. One reason for this is Club 4ag has been basicly the only drifting club for a very long time. Followed by the 240sx Club of southern california. (though not as long or as much i would say)

AE86s are basicly only known for drifting. Few guys autoX them, few guys (any?) drag race them. They arent very many 86 show vehichles, (maybe some now with initial D and drifting catching on.) That means everyone who learns about these cars do so threw drifting. Or learn about them and quickly learns about drifting. And for a long time they were very cheap.

sometimes you see show 240s and drag 240s, but most the 240 and Silvia stuff is about the drifting. I learned about drifting mostly threw learning things about the Silvia, its hard to type nissan Silvia into a search engine and not read something about drifting.

This is one reason they are both such popular drift cars. Now that said, go to any drift day, and you will see Alot of 86s and alot of S13s, (other stuff too) The 86 guys are usualy very good, been at it a while, There are good S13 guys, but most the S13 guys are newer at it. But i would say the third most common car at the DDs in southern california are the Rx-7s, specificly the FC. They are in many ways similar to the S13, and in some ways superior. For example, want a high powered NA S13?? get your self a FC, because the KA isnt going to break 200hp with out breaking the bank, it seems its possible though with a 13B. Also there alittle better balanced. There weights are pretty similar.

Hey if any of you have weighed your FCs tell me what you got. My S13 with some weight reduction and 1/4th tank of gas about 4 gallons no spare or anything, Was 2700, this is the lightest of the S13s, except its a Auto, so other base model S13s probably weigh about 2640 for the same mods. It was 2780 stock when i weighed it. (these are truck scales, probably not too acurate, but they are the same truck scale lol..)

Anyways. The FC guys all seemed to be quite skilled. And though they repersented a minority they were easily the third most common car. 4th place would of been MR2s (at least when i went to Dd11) with some S14s some FBs acouple rx-8s a few FDs, and lots of other stuff, including a skyline.

The FC isnt as popular when compared to the S13 and 86 for the reasons mentioned above, but also FC guys do more then just drift, alot of FCs are drag racers or circit racers. Unlike the 86 which is ALL drifters.

That said there are alot of FC drifters out there. go ask people on this site, a surprising number drift FCs.

Anyways my thoughts are probably all jumbled. But i wanted to say that stuff.

[nissanguy_24]

Originally posted by X-nobody
well i did say "some"...

hatch only??? i though I've seen some coupes with HICAS..
must be some weird canada onlything..
You guys got 4 bolts on the s14??

Though in the defense of HICAS some people argue you don't notice when drifiting.. haven't tried on with so ????

Canada and Japan maybe different. I believe the Silvia was offered with it in japan, and Canadians you all got VLSDs so i dont know.

[theflatlander]

X-Nobody,
Yes the Fc is a good car to start with for drifting due 50/50 weight distribution, pretty good handling from factory ( very neutral), a lot of models came with an LSD and a good power to weight ratio (well at least the turboIIs)
for basic drifting (low speed) i'd recommend getting a good shock &spring setup, sway bars, rear toe eliminators to cancel out the DTSS system all season tire in the rear with grippy one's up front.
when you get into high speed drifting and or racing (mountain, or track) you'll want comletely adjustable suspension.
I recommend coilovers, mazdatrix camber/caster upper spring perch, poly bushings, sway bars, any chassis stiffeners, grippy tires sized to how much power you have, modified knuckles for more steering travel, upgraded brakes, a good LSD, adjust the camber/caster/ toe to you're liking i've seen a lot of different setups so i can't say what would be best. here's a link to learn about suspension setups
http://www.nopistons.com/forums/inde...howtopic=26588