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Originally posted by romanwarrior
Sure!! Heck, ive been like 400mph...............what airplanes dont count? Hehehehe what in hells name does going 200 mph have ANYTHING to do with drifting!?!?
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Sure!! Heck, ive been like 400mph...............what airplanes dont count? Hehehehe what in hells name does going 200 mph have ANYTHING to do with drifting!?!? -
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PG in the house. i just wanna come on here and say this...
IT DOESN'T MATTER....NONE OF THIS MATTERS....JUST SAY SMITH!
Drift Alliance is not goin anywhere, and we love all of u guys that make drifting what it is today...out of control and awesum.
ps. our hoodies are almost done and amazing
PG.....love ya
end transmission...................................... ...Last edited by TopicsSenior; 08-08-2005, 07:15 PM.Comment
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Chris should have won, and I agree with PG a lot of the decisions with Chris have not gone too fairly. I was there in person and everyone around me agreed he shouldnt have won, even some of the pros thought the same.
Chris lives by his word, never liftws off and had an amazing entry and amazing runs, while watching I thought he would definately make the top 4 finally, but he lost for no apparent reason.Comment
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PG - you're making a huge assertion, with little to no evidence.
what do you have to say about rhys getting knocked out in the round of 8 the past 2 events? i thought the American Production cars had the advantage?
or Calvin Wan not making the round of 16 this time, just 1 round after he won? He's driving an American production car...
or Sam getting knocked out in the round of 8 in Sonoma?
Or Tony Brackahara (sp?) only making the round of 32 cut this event, but still not qualifying in the round of 16? He's got a factory backing from Saleen...
you say there's a conspiracy because only American production Cars are winning. But i'm giving you tons of examples of non-american productioon cars doing well, and also american cars doing crappy. I think that Rhys Millen will always see some amount of success in any car he builds because he's a great engineer and also a great drivers. Put sam behind the wheel of anything with 500 HP and within 2-3 events, he'll be in the top 4. Put Gushi behind the wheel of anything good, and he'll be at the top. Several of the drivers that you think SHOULD be doing good (which you still haven't named anyone, other than Chris Forsberg) have not been driving to the best of their abilities.
Please feel free to share who you think should be on the top of the points this year (since after this win, I'm pretty sure Sam will be #1 and Gushi will be number 2, and I believe they deserve to be there). Should Dai be on top because he drives a 240? taka because he drives an 86? Tyler cuz he drives a supra?Comment
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Chris,
I really commend your relaxed and unbiast statement as you know it's not political but it's subjective and getting very aggressive.
I feel regardless of how you're slated in the poinst chase YOU'VE done amazingly well, your speed, line and execution is AMAZING!
Yes DA DVD will rule!!!!!
Pete is awesome!
Thanks for doing what you're doing!Comment
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Anyone gotta video of it? I was suprise Papadakis was doing so well. Ill agree he has skill though in drag though.Comment
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way to take his point out of context. he didnt say ALL of the american cars were doing amazing he was just giving you an example of a really weird coincedence. just keep this forum on ziptied because people are over analyzing what your saying in my opinion and are taking little bits and peices out of your argument when the whole discussion is about Forsberg getting shafted and judging from the video that someone posted on ziptied i think he got fuc*ed overOriginally posted by SlapshotnerdComment
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:werd: I don't think they're playing enough attention to the HOLY SHAT that guy is entering early and REALLY fast factor....regardless of the driver/car. I haven't seen this battle, but I trust your word on this because I know you're not an idiot...I've seen a lot of people argue stuff on boards where I'll see a video that's completely different.Anyways, what I am saying is even S-Chassis cars that have more hp and especially the GTO/Vipers, etc that have a Million hp are still not entering as fast, as early, as crazy as Forsberg and aren't drifting as close and maniacal and absolutely INSANE like Forsberg. But they are winning. Maybe the criteria for Formula D is "You must suck more than Chris Forsberg and you will do well."
I'm also sick of the whole "one more time" thing.
I just don't want Formula D to be the WWF of driftingComment
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Any of the drifters competing in FD gone over 200+ mph except for Steph?
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Impatiently waiting for Video.Comment
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Guys,
By definition, the term "politics" indicates that FD is gaining something by doing something wrong. Or also by not doing something for a gain. As proposterous that it is to make an accusation of politics playing being a factor in FD, we gain nothing from whoever wins a round or an event. Whether Rhys wins or whether Dai wins it, makes no difference to us. We have nothing to gain or lose on who wins or loses and event. None of the people you spoke of have financial commitments to FD hence eliminating even the possibility of something ludicrous like that even being possible. Neither Ford, GM or Mopar or Infiniti are sponsors of the event so that gets thrown out too. Also as far as tire manufacturers are concerned, each tire make with the exception of Cooper has made a podium at least once this year.
Same goes for the judges. They have nothing to gain or lose by who wins or loses. Sitting right next to them at each event I can honestly tell you that they are making their best judgement calls on each run. Regardless, even if one had a vendetta or something sinister for a certian driver, each judge puts in his choice for winner in a PDA so his score can't be swayed by another judge. They briefly discuss the run, talk about their own personal understanding, listen to each other and then enter their choice for winner, either driver A, B or tie. Within a few seconds they know who moves on. 9 times out of ten they know the winner before they even compute it because most of the time they are in agreement with each other.
It is no coincidence that the individuals that have won or podiumed at the events this year are just plain some of the best drivers in the series. Dai, Ken, Rhys, Casper, Sam, Alex, Kenji, Calvin, Vaughn, Tanner and Conrad each have podiumed at least once this year. That is more of a diverse line-up by leaps and bounds over last year. This tells me one thing: Drivers are getting better and better and the margin between a win and a lose is inches, not feet. As a matter of fact the margin by which you either made or did not make the top 16 at Chicago was by 1-3 points for the most part. This should tell you something.
As far as Chris and Steph is concerned, the view from the judges podium (which is the only view that can indicate a winner) it was a very close run. The judges gave the win to Steph. Now, I can tell you one thing about Steph off topic from his run with Chris. Steph is one of the best listeners we have ever seen. When the judges described the best line for qualifying, on his second run he nailed it to almost a perfect run. Steph also tried to get ride-a-longs with as many more experienced FD drivers that he could. He was watching their line fron inside the car, seeing if the are using the hand brake, and where they are clutch kicking etc. To say that there is any politics there is far from a spec of truth. Both AEM or Honda have no presence in FD. Steph plain and simple listened to what was spoken and learned from the best FD drivers the line to take to qualify.
For the record, and just my opinion as a fan of drifting, to me Chris Forsberg is one of the best drivers in FD and when he is on, I feel that he is almost unbeatable. He comes in hotter than most drivers, has sick angle and slams the hell out of that car. He is also someone I consider a good friend and one of the coolest guys and one most hard-working, lovers of drifting I know. I have had the pleasure to spend lots of time with him and many others at demos and can tell you that he is one of the faces of the future of drifting. It is an honor to see him drive and I pay countless compliments to him as a driver and person.Comment
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The view shouldnt matter much, becuase I stood in that same spot just lower until hiro crashed and they kicked me out. You could tell everything from that view. Also I spoke with someone sitting thier during the runs who completely disagreed with the decisions and he actually knows wat he is talking about.Comment
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I just watched the video. From the camera's view it looked like Chris should have won it. He had the angle, the speed, the smoke, and a crazy early entry.
But it was closer than I thought it was going to be after reading this thread. I could see how from a different angle if you had to quickly give this a score this may be judged different. I am not a judge and I don't know what the judges were looking for that day, they may have seem something from their angle that the camera dosen't.Comment
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just saw the video.
one phrase: It is easier to keep up when you shallow the angle.
Seems to me that Step got the better rolling start than Chris when he followed. Hats off to Chris for sucking up on Pap in full lock DA Style.
Vote: Forseberg
nice drive Pap no disrespect here you drove nice.Comment
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Well good thing you spoke with someone sitting "their" who knows "wat" he is talking about...Originally posted by kidynomite
We have heard what you think, we know your position, the ruling has been made- deal with it. FD already came on here and made a statement, which was very clear and concise. No hidden agendas, no malice. Forsberg has came on here and made it clear what he thinks as well.
Props to everyone that was there, and everyone that actually gets behind the wheel and drifts to have fun. What does it matter if someone has jumped on the recent trend (as someone stated earlier)? If you have fun on the track, whether it be drift, drag, auto X or road racing, thats all that matters- FUN.
Enough of the critics...Comment
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