(FEEDBACK) FORMULA D ATLANTA May 8-9th 2009

[J-Rod]

Fun drifting will survive.
There WAS a time when people drifted for fun...
it still exists, but it isn't in the pro field.



just sayin'.



BRING ON THE WALL SPEEDWAY!
NJ rd 3 Formula DRIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Harte and fans,
DRIFTING will ALWAYS be fun, get over it!!!!

Sideways burnouts/tire abuse/doing what you did in your high school parking lot for a living will ALWAYS be fun, ask all the drivers and see if it's fun! They'll say yes! Nobody likes to lose of course but seriously "Debbie Downer"....

[Brian]

Fun drifting will survive.
There WAS a time when people drifted for fun...
it still exists, but it isn't in the pro field.



just sayin'.



BRING ON THE WALL SPEEDWAY!
NJ rd 3 Formula DRIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PeakPerformance]

BLAZE,

Do we have to do this again?

There is a reason there is a quote feature, and you quoted me but you interpreted it the wrong way and said I quoted it.

First, there is no reason for Victor to bring up all this stuff when Pat himself is not. He is approaching it the right way and FD will get this handled in a professional way and hopefully resolve it with Pat. I never said to blindly watch drifting and just be a normal fan, I am just suggesting that bringing bad news to the light without giving FD the chance to resolve it is not good for our sport. I know it may be exciting to report this, but it can eventually hurt the sport and FD overall. I don't think anyone wants this, do we?

Blaze, again you misquoted me, I never said the accept the calls. I have had bad calls against me, just do it the proper way. File a petition and argue your side, thats all. Bringing it up here is just a mob trial, everyone doesn't know all the details, lets not get into the hang him hang him mentality.

Again misquoted, I never said Victor said for people not do do business with FD. I said that if drifting is hurt or FD is not longer racing, then it will affect everyone is a negative way. Blaze I know you are a fan, but what if drifting disappears, that won't benefit Victor, me or you.

But you heard eddie kim guys

Drifting is serious buisnes, us regular guys should just watch blindly like the rest of the fans. Enjoy the crashes and accept the calls.

Lets take note that Victor has yet to say not to do buisnes with FD, or anything of that sort. Unlike our old buddy Rhys making threats to go to D1.

[J-Rod]

i lost my voice from cheering. i had a great time. i'm thinking about going to jersey. i'll definitely be there next year. thanks again for the free tickets.

we had a no cupcaking sign because of Al. Props to the SD guys for reminding us that drifting is about having fun and being an idiot.

Definitely roll to Jersey at Wall!!!
The crazy track is always a good time and the East Coast vibe is a blast!!!

BTW, Like I always say, losing your voice by the end of the event is a good sign of a great event!!!!

See ya'll in Jersey!!!!!

[P.Haire]

i lost my voice from cheering. i had a great time. i'm thinking about going to jersey. i'll definitely be there next year. thanks again for the free tickets.

we had a no cupcaking sign because of Al. Props to the SD guys for reminding us that drifting is about having fun and being an idiot.

[Bebop]

But you heard eddie kim guys

Drifting is serious buisnes, us regular guys should just watch blindly like the rest of the fans. Enjoy the crashes and accept the calls.

Lets take note that Victor has yet to say not to do buisnes with FD, or anything of that sort. Unlike our old buddy Rhys making threats to go to D1.

[vvtisupra]

^^^^
I don't see ANY problem with this whole thing to be posted in the public. Without the public, FD would be nothing.

+1 besides they did ask for feedback.... just look at the thread title

[vvtisupra]

Insurance...

blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda

[DriftChick]

Think of it this way...If you towed my fancy expensive car and one of your procedures to get it on or off the flatbed scratched it.

We spoke about the scratch quickly, but it was an issue that needed further discussion and negotiation between us. In the meantime, my friends (who heard about the issue from me), took to the internet and spoke of you and your company in a bad way concerning the scratch on a "Tow Truck Feedback Forum."

This is happening while you and I are trying to settle things in private.

How would you feel about that situation?

Would you prefer we settle the issue on our own, without anyone else being involved or do you prefer the "openness and full disclosure" of a forum, where lies, conspiracies and false accusations are very hard to discern from the truth and bad reputations can be established very quickly?

You may have a valid point in your arguments, but show them to FormulaD and give them the opportunity to look over everything first. Maybe then they can make the appropriate changes to the rules, figure things out with Pat, and put out a press release or rule change. If after trying the quiet, professional way of approaching this situation they don't acknowledge the problem, THEN take to the interwebs to voice your concern and disgust.

The way you are doing this is very unprofessional and unfair to Formula D. You haven't given them a chance to fix the problem and are insinuating that they have flat out refused to do anything about it.

[Brian]

^^^^
I don't see ANY problem with this whole thing to be posted in the public. Without the public, FD would be nothing.

[PeakPerformance]

Formula D Round 1 LB - Spotter's tower

"So what's it gonna be Steph? A drag race or more brake checking?!!" (as if Mr. Papadakis is actually telling Tanner to do either) followed by more smack talking and a charge over to Mr. Papadakis as if you're ready to throw down.

Yea I confronted Steph, and Steph and I have been friends and in the industry for about 15 years. I met Steph when he was 15 years old with Lucky Racing. He understands that we are competing on a high level, so I feel I can confront him about the tactics his driver may be using. I never accused Steph of coaching Tanner to do that or even accused Tanner of brake checking, I just asked how they were going to run that run!

Tanner and Steph are on the same tire as us and we provide tire service for their team. If there was beef or problems with them I would tell them to pound sand. So don't make a story out of nothing, you are creating drama when there wasn't any. I wasn't going to throw down with Steph, so don't create a huge story on here.

The whole point of of my post was let the people directly involved with FD that we will probably argue and have differences of opinion. We are a big family and families have problems but we are going to try to resolve them together behind closed doors. I know that my family has arguments and disagreements, but if my siblings started writing all our problems on a public forum, that might not be the best solution. If I had a problem with Steph or Tanner, we obviously have no issues and resolved whatever we needed too without airing it out on drifting.com We are cool and our teams are cool, just ask Steph!

Now I think I would be in the wrong to start talking trash about Papadakis racing or Tanner on this forum. Then later go to them and try to make peace. How hard would the situation be if i did that, accused them of wrong doing, smeared their name, and then said, let's make it cool or try to resolve the issue. Obviously it could be done, but it would probably leave a bad taste in their mouth.

CPW28, I don't even know if you were there. So let's report the news, not make the news. Do you really think I am going to throw down with Steph? Cmon man, I have been in this industry for 18+ years, I am not going to ruin my reputation with my sponsors over that. "More smack talking..." - what did I say that you consider smack talking?

Pat, my bad, I am happy you are taking care of this in a professional way. I respect you for that. I am sure that you and FD will resolve this in a way that will continue you on a positive path. Regardless of the call being bad or good, or if it was a mistake or not, you have taken the high road and I am sure that you will be rewarded in the end.

Eddie K

[vvtisupra]

drifting.com just got awesome !

All these little tid bits!



more than one tire company read below scale ?!?!?

Will there be an official press release regarding such allegations via Formula D ?


not really trying to excite rumors etc. But this stuff just got interesting.



Also, say this does issue does get corrected. Where will Pat stand in points because if he did not get DQ'd he had a chance to even rank higher?

[OldSkool510]

I guess now that there is a DA judge up in the tower, everything is always "DA's fault"

There's always a conspiracy theory, isn't there...

Now a "DAgate", too. lol

[J.Herron]

Tiregate? You want a scandal do you? How about the info floating on the web that Patrick Mordaunt was DQ'd after beating a DA driver because there were protests filed against him. Apparently round 1 saw virtually all makes of tires having trouble with this new rule. Of course this information was never made public or communicated to the teams however, someone must have known to start protesting at round 2. A DA team perhaps? How would they know to protest? Could they have heard from a DA judge? Soundy sketchy

So what if Ken was still a judge? Would you still be saying the same things?

I guess now that there is a DA judge up in the tower, everything is always "DA's fault"



There's always a conspiracy theory, isn't there...

[courantcom]

I do not control Victor, nor will I ever force him to act in a different manner. I have been asked by other parties to quiet him down, and have relayed the message, but it does not mean I have final say in his actions.

Who's asking you to? I'm sure they know my phone number and they can call me themselves.