Jose has a clean soapra. When I think JDM supras I think of jose and mike.
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Forgotten....It's good to see that some understands the wonders of the 1jz... I had awhole bunch of comments to add to the "1jz" topic, but I realized must of it you already said....soooo o'well. Your car looks sweet, keep us updated on the swap...and Yes you will love going sidways in a 1jz. So smooth.
Also that supra taillight conversion looks clean, I like the older moded look.
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Originally posted by ForgottenX
... i would really like to know where you got your information from.
because the 7m is the worst platform for both road racing and drifting. there are too manythings that were faulty in its design.
the 1j is still to this day in use in japan, unlike the 2j which got discontinued.
1j can support well over 1400hp with its current bottem end.
I'll agree about the 7m being able to produce more torque (hp to torque ratio)
1j is a revv happy engine
7ms hate high rpms, I own a ma71 and have many friends with 1js and have gone out on the limb to reaserch both engines.
trust wen i say that the 7m is a BS engine. there was a reason why it got replaced by the 1j.
and please do not quote the HP rating it has according to the japs. both jza70 and jza80 on a dyno with just intake and exhaust produce 280rwhp and 1j:285 torque 2j 283 torque.
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the supra doc has a soapra (a70 with soarer front end) soon to be 1j powered
can't wait to feel and see it once its 1j powered
WTF is your problem bashing the 7m motor...last time i checked it lasted for over 15 years....the 5m....etc...
the 7m has low down torque...while the 1-2j's HAVE torque but you must stroke them out for the max....have you ever seen a 800+ hp 2jz WITHOUT a stroker kit??? NO...
yes the motor is old, yes it has antiquated technology...but thats the beuty of it...its just that simple ( same with the 4ag series and the Sr's...)
I like the sound of the 7ms too..very throaty and not too ricey, but the howl of a 1j or 2j just makes my spine tingle!
whatever you fancy you need to think twice before you bash another 7m...
remember if it WERENT for the 7m much less the 5m there would be no 1j or 2j series motor to boot!!!!!!! you got to learn somewhere
peace...and when you see my car built up real soon, well see who laughs at the 7m...
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I never had a problem with the head gasket in my 7m... but it is a big problem with that motor I hear. And to add with the 7m/1jz battle....this is why I keep my thoughts to myself, to not start little wars over the internet. But I feel like saying something this time. The 7m is a good motor, but it does have it's problems. Which motor doesn't. As for drifting though, I personally (IMO) would use the 1jz...I mean look at all the soarers, but Yes there are alot of 7m guys out trying to drift too. It just seems like a better motor for getting the *Censored**Censored**Censored*-end around the track, because of wieght. Again this is my opinion. Not everyone is going to think the same and that is how the world goes round. Instead of bashing everything they say on the INTERNET, let them say what they have to say, waste their money on whatever and see who is right(happy with their choice). The supra is a goat, a heavy ride trying to do it's best. And everyone just wants the same....To have the best car they can. Agian this is my opinion, It may not be right, but it is the internet...who really cares?
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I don't know about that RB buddy, but if you got the cash and want to try it go right ahead...then tell me how it goes.
Sorry if that came out pissy...Last edited by suberi_RPS13; 08-03-2004, 04:35 PM.
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