BlackTruenoAE86
It really depends at what level of competition you wish to run. Your not going to do good at D1 or FD with 140hp. Even though the blacktop claims to have 170 flywheel hp, its far from it. But the blacktop can be very reliable and get good gas mileage if you still use your car on the street. For the 16v, it all depends on how well you can build it for the price.
ONtheROADagain,
The 20v is cool. It wasnt really me that chose to turbo the car but my friend stan who owned it back then. He home made a turbo setup on it which was in really bad shape but it added about 40hp to the thing. He got addicted to the extra hp but ended up taking off the turbo since he was using the car as a daily driver. When he got another car, then he wanted to build up the car again to run in NASA or Speed Trial events and he wanted some hp so people wouldnt just fly past you on the straight aways. So i convinced him to let me build a better setup but still keep it under a budget. My deal was that i would beable to use the car too for drift events. After the car was put together, he used it maybe a couple track events and i ended up using it alot more at the drift events. Since i used the car alot more, i ended up buying the car off him. Lets just say that I am not happy with the turbo setup it has because i made it so cheep, There are alot of things i would have changed or done differently if it was my car to begin with.
drifterd,
It depends how bad you messed up the GTS. Cars are getting harder and harder to get. If you can get another chassy thats already street legal, then thats alot easier then getting one that you have to salvage title and get smoged.
FC_RAUL
First off, auto x is a different kind of driving then anything else. The speed, the amount of turns, and the short distance play into learning how to drive within a specfic "style" inorder to get good times. That "style" of driving is only good for one thing, and that is auto X.
People think that they learn alot about driving when they auto X, this is not true. (unless you spend years autoXing). There are a couple reasons why, first is your usually too nervous to do anything more then yank the wheel back and forth. Which means your not smooth and your not really paying attention to what you are doing and how the car reacted to it. Second is you only go threw the course a few times. This means there is not much learning potential since you never get a feel for the full course.
Autox is like what, $35 to $45 for a few runs, then some areas you have to be scca member ($75 a year). That means its about $10 a lap, plus you have to cone chase (pick up cones or work). A nasa or a club event that you take your street car to the track has the same rules for safety equipment you need. Which is basicly a helmet and a running car. The range in price from about $125 to $200 a day. In the day most will give you 4 sessions or more at about 20 minutes each. Normal road coarse race tracks are about 2 to 3.5 miles in length, about 15 different turns, and take 2 minutes or less to go around. You get usually 8-12 laps a session so just say you got 35 laps because someone crashed and they ended one of your sessions early. Even at $200 for the day thats $5.75 a lap, and you didnt have to pick up cones. The best parts is you have alot more opertunity to learn since you ran the turns so many more times in one day, you have more time to relax and get an actual feel of what you and your car is doing good or bad, you have instructors that can jump in with you, or just have one of your friends jump in is always fun, I think your probably getting what im saying by now.
It really depends at what level of competition you wish to run. Your not going to do good at D1 or FD with 140hp. Even though the blacktop claims to have 170 flywheel hp, its far from it. But the blacktop can be very reliable and get good gas mileage if you still use your car on the street. For the 16v, it all depends on how well you can build it for the price.
ONtheROADagain,
The 20v is cool. It wasnt really me that chose to turbo the car but my friend stan who owned it back then. He home made a turbo setup on it which was in really bad shape but it added about 40hp to the thing. He got addicted to the extra hp but ended up taking off the turbo since he was using the car as a daily driver. When he got another car, then he wanted to build up the car again to run in NASA or Speed Trial events and he wanted some hp so people wouldnt just fly past you on the straight aways. So i convinced him to let me build a better setup but still keep it under a budget. My deal was that i would beable to use the car too for drift events. After the car was put together, he used it maybe a couple track events and i ended up using it alot more at the drift events. Since i used the car alot more, i ended up buying the car off him. Lets just say that I am not happy with the turbo setup it has because i made it so cheep, There are alot of things i would have changed or done differently if it was my car to begin with.
drifterd,
It depends how bad you messed up the GTS. Cars are getting harder and harder to get. If you can get another chassy thats already street legal, then thats alot easier then getting one that you have to salvage title and get smoged.
FC_RAUL
First off, auto x is a different kind of driving then anything else. The speed, the amount of turns, and the short distance play into learning how to drive within a specfic "style" inorder to get good times. That "style" of driving is only good for one thing, and that is auto X.
People think that they learn alot about driving when they auto X, this is not true. (unless you spend years autoXing). There are a couple reasons why, first is your usually too nervous to do anything more then yank the wheel back and forth. Which means your not smooth and your not really paying attention to what you are doing and how the car reacted to it. Second is you only go threw the course a few times. This means there is not much learning potential since you never get a feel for the full course.
Autox is like what, $35 to $45 for a few runs, then some areas you have to be scca member ($75 a year). That means its about $10 a lap, plus you have to cone chase (pick up cones or work). A nasa or a club event that you take your street car to the track has the same rules for safety equipment you need. Which is basicly a helmet and a running car. The range in price from about $125 to $200 a day. In the day most will give you 4 sessions or more at about 20 minutes each. Normal road coarse race tracks are about 2 to 3.5 miles in length, about 15 different turns, and take 2 minutes or less to go around. You get usually 8-12 laps a session so just say you got 35 laps because someone crashed and they ended one of your sessions early. Even at $200 for the day thats $5.75 a lap, and you didnt have to pick up cones. The best parts is you have alot more opertunity to learn since you ran the turns so many more times in one day, you have more time to relax and get an actual feel of what you and your car is doing good or bad, you have instructors that can jump in with you, or just have one of your friends jump in is always fun, I think your probably getting what im saying by now.
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