Chris Rado, SPORT COMPACT CAR "Getting the Whole Drift"

[Erkumi]

I havent been to a drift event. An that s2000 is perfect(of course you would need a beter suspension). 240hp, 2800 pounds. And you know what, i would have no problem putting all of that money into the supra like that even though i dont have much money. It just shows more dedication. Anyone can go out and buy an s2000.

[Craftsman]

Originally posted by hondoo
that sounds pretty cool...where'd you hear that?

I called it rumor for a reason... If this is true, we'll hear something about it soon...

Matt.

[Craftsman]

Rado, I completely missed you at FD dude...

Matt.

[pony]

when did craftsman become everyone in the industrys best friend?

[aristo]

Originally posted by pony
when did craftsman become everyone in the industrys best friend?

Since he started making tools.

[Rado]

Wha'ts up Matt, Yeah man I wasn't at FD yet. But I do have a good race coming up in Oct in Baytown and that's probably just down the road for you. I know it's not a drift event but if you want to go let me know. The NDRA events are a lot of fun. Also I just got back to my home town so I will be able to post the origional "Getting the Whole Drift" later today sorry about the hold up we had major surgery to do all weekend on the drag car just a little to busy to get to the net. But will have it up later.

[carboy]

what the h%$&

this erkumi guy is wayyy off base. you might have had some sort of a point a couple of years ago but drifting has dramatically changed in the past 2-3 years. what was considered a good drift setup back 10 years ago is now prehistoric in my mind. Power is very very important and of course balance is super important but i truly believe the day of hachi's winning full on D1 level events may be over (unless they are forcefed). In fact, i would have to say that Ueo's win at the exhibition D1 might have been a swan song so to speak of the era of underpowered cars in the professional drifting level. Unfortunately Initial D is one thing, reality a completey different thing. One thing that is telling of this whole theory is if you watch old school drifters like keiichi and then compare them with the new school guys like Kazama, Imamura, Kumakubo, Taniguchi, etc....(all the usual suspects). There is no comparison that the new school guys are faster, have wayyy more angle and are able to use high power to their advantage. At the exhibition D1 event they let Keiichi take a solo run kind of as a "respect" thing after we had seen numerous runs by team orange, nomuken, ueno, etc...and to honest it wasn't even close. Don't get me wrong, keiichi is still my hero and i love they guy to death but what these new school guys are doing mindblowing in comparison. Their ability to place the car where ever they want and then quickly adjust is soooo dependent on power. One of the most beautiful things to watch is when drifters drift the "bowl" otherwise known as turn 1 at the Irwindale..the big long lefthanded sweeper. This turn is impossible to drift unless you have big power.

sorry for the long babble but Erkumi, what you also need to take into consideration is the "American" factor. With factory works teams like Dodge and Pontiac pushing the power limits way up it only forces other competitors to do the same. Torque monsters like the GTO and Viper are going to and have already changed the game in my mind. Because of this, power is now the most important aspect and then you build your handling characteristics around it.

I know this has been beaten over and over already but the whole Chris Forsberg/Sam Hubinette controversy at Formula D can be attributed in large part to power. If Sam couldn't get that far away from Chris as he did when he was leading, and then wasn't sooo close when chasing then the whole argument would be dead. They both had great lines and great angle (except for Chris' slight misstep at the end of the course on one of the first runs). The only major factor that made people think Sam was so much better was his speed. even before they entered turn 1, sam was so far ahead of chris that it looked unfair. and then when sam was chasing he was soo far up chris' rear before turn 1 the match was over before it started unless sam spunout. I don't think chris was just half throttling it and thinking "well i might as well let sam come real close so he can pass me later or just make it so close that i have no chance." But i can imagine that it's hard to get away from a full blown competition coupe on your *Censored**Censored**Censored* even if you have a pretty well tuned SR.

anyways, enough of my babble and please don't take this as an attack on you erkumi, just explanation in opposition of what you are saying. drifting has changed whether we all like it or not. i mean if you are saying you want to be better than Alex P or keiichi then at least have a realistic outlook on how the game is being played. If you are just going to attend local events and grassroots stuff then of course handling is probably more important but the big leagues are another story.

Peace...big ups to the Drift Alliance!!!!!!

[nissanguy_24]

Gentlemen you can discuss drifting techniques and set ups in another thread, this is about Rados artical specificly.