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Ah. That sucks. Well there's always a next time. And for the future, September 9th is supposed to be Round 4 of the Top Drift series. If your sponsors allow it, you shoudl come out to compete, because as you can tell i think it would definetely help a lot and would probly earn you a lot of respect from all the guys out here. Until then, good luck with the practice sessions.
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yeah i agree with eveyone talk to your mom and pops then mopar and see what you can do about coming out for a few events.. show your sponsors your desire to IMPROVE AND PROMOTE THEM! and i dont think they will say no
keep it up kidComment
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Am I invited? HAHAComment
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You know you should come out to some of the florida events we hold here we should be having another one here in the next couple months if you are here. Check out www.floridadrift.com for the detailsComment
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We also have an amateur competition series in atlanta at turner field (a little closer to Miami than Cali
). Check out www.driftfury.com we usually get about 25 practice runs per event and then we do a top 8 competition.
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why is this thred still open?Comment
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because nick has a famous father.Comment
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all this talk about modified knuckles, nd tweaked camber/toe setups bothers me, i mean, i know i jsut drift for fun, as a hobby, i dont get into third gear except for a few times here and there.... but honestly, i feel like all this teck tal kabout "well with one knuckle th car spun out" and with the other knuckle the car didnt spin out... its like, well maybe its the driver then, because last time i checked.... i know kids that win almost every event that beaver run and kilkare have to offer with skill, not the car... im serious, basics mods like a motor, 2 way, coilovers, and a few other things (yesi know my car is way more built up than that, but still), but if you are bitching about modified knuckles that are letting or not letting you succeed... that makes me think its not the knuckles at all man, sounds like the "knuckles" are a term for excuses...
Disclaimer - im not pro, i know that being pro means being consistent..
Disclaimer #2 - alot of pros have superbuilt cars, some dont have super built cars, we all accept that
disclaimer #3 - no one should ever *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* or make excuses abotu a car not beign dialed correctly... because i see kids everyother weekend that literally, rip in their car, 3rd gear and all until it breaks, and then hop into a friend or strangers car and fulfill the same "shred factor".... john wagner just to name 1....
Post to nick hogan, ... it seems like you like the sport, its seems liek you have a good attitude... thats great man, but i see you more as a "im going to make a pseudo living out of this" rather than enjoy it as a hobby, and i dont think that its the best route for you... but who am i? my dad isnt the hulkster... so what do i know. Either way, chinup man, theres always the next event...
anyhow guys, i didnt want to come across as a *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*, i lvoe you all, lets all rmember that we're doing this to have fun..which is #1, because ive noticed that drifting has evolved into what i predicted in the last 3-4 years... it went from kids in cars that perform well and jsut love to rip (so positive).................................. to a fashion contest (car modifications, like aero, and whos got the biggest dish) where everyone wants to be the most popular with almost what happened to honda civics and road courses (turning into everyone having them with something to prove
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whatever, ive rambled too long,,...Comment
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Originally posted by s15driftkingall this talk about modified knuckles, nd tweaked camber/toe setups bothers me, i mean, i know i jsut drift for fun, as a hobby, i dont get into third gear except for a few times here and there.... but honestly, i feel like all this teck tal kabout "well with one knuckle th car spun out" and with the other knuckle the car didnt spin out... its like, well maybe its the driver then, because last time i checked.... i know kids that win almost every event that beaver run and kilkare have to offer with skill, not the car... im serious, basics mods like a motor, 2 way, coilovers, and a few other things (yesi know my car is way more built up than that, but still), but if you are bitching about modified knuckles that are letting or not letting you succeed... that makes me think its not the knuckles at all man, sounds like the "knuckles" are a term for excuses...
Disclaimer - im not pro, i know that being pro means being consistent..
Disclaimer #2 - alot of pros have superbuilt cars, some dont have super built cars, we all accept that
disclaimer #3 - no one should ever *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* or make excuses abotu a car not beign dialed correctly... because i see kids everyother weekend that literally, rip in their car, 3rd gear and all until it breaks, and then hop into a friend or strangers car and fulfill the same "shred factor".... john wagner just to name 1....
Post to nick hogan, ... it seems like you like the sport, its seems liek you have a good attitude... thats great man, but i see you more as a "im going to make a pseudo living out of this" rather than enjoy it as a hobby, and i dont think that its the best route for you... but who am i? my dad isnt the hulkster... so what do i know. Either way, chinup man, theres always the next event...
anyhow guys, i didnt want to come across as a *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored*, i lvoe you all, lets all rmember that we're doing this to have fun..which is #1, because ive noticed that drifting has evolved into what i predicted in the last 3-4 years... it went from kids in cars that perform well and jsut love to rip (so positive).................................. to a fashion contest (car modifications, like aero, and whos got the biggest dish) where everyone wants to be the most popular with almost what happened to honda civics and road courses (turning into everyone having them with something to prove )
whatever, ive rambled too long,,...
For one you are comparing apples to oranges, thats like saying well my s-chassis is easier to drift stock than your viper is stock, which is probably true but most s-chassis cars have more angle stock then the viper, I know I ran my s14 with stock stearing stops and stock angle for a long time and didnt feel like I needed anymore, but now how much time I spend on the modified steering stops I would spin like crazy in a stock car. At least till I got used to it again. And the difference between the two cars is night and day. The viper was designed when it was built as a purpose built drift car to run on modified knuckles to give it the extra angle it needs. Maybe a more experienced driver could have adjusted faster but you cant fault him for having his setup changed in the middle of his practice runs and not adjusting fast enough. Now that being said I think even he would agree that the reason he didnt get his license was lack of experience excuses or not thats the truth, a more experienced driver would have adjusted to track changes quicker and a more experienced driver probably would have avoided the 2nd accident. He has already stated that he is going to attend more events and work hard so I am not sure why this thread is still open??Comment
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well, you said it best... then why do people compete with something that statistically is more consistent, sure you have rare exceptions, thats life. But if correlations show that Schassis cars tend to be more consistent, then why do people drive other cars, its (mostly) their choice....Originally posted by brainfood
For instance, just the other day, a kid asks me "why do they put underpowered cars like corrollas up against vipers...??? and my answer was, because thats what they brought to run.... THEY DIDNT have to BRING that ae86 knowing that some viper was going to leave them in a trail of dust/smoke....
....but for some reason (lifelong optimist maybe?) they want to be different? or are used to the car more than another car (but it doesnt matter unless you're winning right... on a professional level)
^^^both ideas dont hold much sanity to me...especially if you are trying to make a living out of this....(1. why use a car that cant "run" with the big dogs, 2. why do soemthing just to be different when there are proven routes to success?)Comment
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What kind of excitement or diversity would there be if everyone drove the same car? There would be none, it would be boring because the cars would all drive the same and it would just end up like some sort of Nascar event but with cars going sideways, where everyone's motor and chassis is the same. That's not what drifting is about at all. People choose to drive other cars becuase it's what they can afford, or maybe they just like driving something that most other people have a hard time driving and it shows they're just THAT much better of a driver. Hell, that's why I'm driving a corolla, because it shows i have THAT MUCH MORE skill than all of my friends with 240's. Sure i dont always win and if i make a mistake it bites me in the *Censored**Censored**Censored*, but that's part of the challenge. If it was easy, then Drifting would be boring and everyone would do it.Originally posted by s15driftking
You're right, it's because it's what we have to drive and what a driver has brought to the track. And just because a viper can pull away from a corolla on a straight away doesnt mean it's some kind of supercar that is unstoppable or fast through the turns. And it's not that you purposely pit a 500+hp Viper against a 180-200hp Corolla, it's all chance. But when this does happen, it's a true test of skill on both sides. Can the corolla driver keep up with the viper once you initiate and are sideways by using the car's light weight to catch him in the corner? At the same time, Can the viper still take a good line and follow well knowing the corolla is going to be significantly slower going down a straight or on an entry speed? Realistically if i could find the words to explain why we drive corollas (besides the fact that they're just pure fun and again showing you're a great driver over the other people) you probably wouldnt understand, becuase until you've driven one you wont ever really understand.Originally posted by s15driftking
Why would you want to be the same as everybody else, then you're just another worthless drone driving the same car, drifting the same way. Winning isnt always everything, and it seems like a lot of people don't really understand that. Sometimes there's just personal satisfaction that a driver wants.Originally posted by s15driftking
What you dont seem to get is that a Corolla or a slower car CAN run with the big dogs, you just dont think they can. Why do something different? Because doing something that's easy and simple is BORING and a waste of time, most drivers LIKE HAVING A CHALLENGE. That's why we're competing and driving against other people.Originally posted by s15driftking
I'm sure theres some points i've overlooked in this wonderfully long message, but i dont really care. Don't expect me to reply to a response to this, because chances are it'll be a complete waste of time. And can we also get a threadlock or something, because this has gone completely off topic and has lost sight of the original reason for this thread.Comment
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all i have to say is.Not even the Hulk could stop that from happening.
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^^^ listen
do three (3) things for me
1. quit acting like i was attacking anyone personally. you talk about how drifting isnt about winning and its supposed to be fun.... and all you are doing is preaching to the chior, thats why i do it for funs-sake...
2. stop with the brute force attack, you'll notice that drifting.com wont tolerate people that get out of line and go to far (As you have clearly done) and taken what i said way out of context, chopped it, underminded it and regurgitated it into falsehood...
3. please do as you promised, and dont reply to this thread... you might be good at driving, you might think drifting=life... you might be new to it, you might have been into it as long as i have... But at the end of the day, what you are saying is what everyone else is saying, you are trying to take and justify how a sport that was birthed on grassroots HAS NOT turned into a media melting pot for rumors and success, take drifting for what it is, it was underground, and fun, but now its mainstream and fun, the keyword is fun....
quit acting like all of the kids on zilvia who think that they ...
1.are the real deal because they hate initial D
2. are some sort of elitest drift guru who has tons of knowledge and no seat time
3. have a badass drift car because they think that meisters and version select aero are the endall be-all of driftz0r components...
someone please end this thread, its getting way to predictable...Comment
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Well this is what I got from you response to my post, you dont think the ae86 chassis is competitive, which is clearly false and there are many '86 drivers that have proven you wrong in the past. Also I got the impression that you think that the viper isnt as competitive or consistent as an schassis car. Another falsehood that has been proven wrong many times. Stick you foot in your mouth or both hands whatever keeps you from looking like an idiot in this thread. The only reason he was using stock knuckles was from an accident earlier in the day. the car as it was built has plenty of angle and is super consistent and competitive.Comment
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im not doubting any of that...
is it also wrong to have opinions? sure there are drivers that can pilot an 86, but in my opinion of what ive seen, those drivers step foot in something like an S chassis and get tons more angle not to mention less snap back.. this is my ipinion from what ive seen, so please dont come down on me like im trying to say that i am all knowing, you're looking for an argument, and you wont find it here...
im simply stating what ive seen, and you cannot argue with that..Comment
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