Who is the best drifter ever?

[BooZTT]

Other. Mitsuru Hariguchi.

I have to agree with you and Chris..I miss him not being around as well. So much attitude and style..both in his cars and the way he drove them...a freak of nature.

[nasty nate 7]

Ueo looks like he's panicking because he's the most aggressive driver out there... which he deffinitely is NOT panicking, nobody immitates his style, same goes for Imamura, and thats why they've both won D1... you have to be far out of the ordinary to win D1 in a corolla... and what does clutch kicking have to do with Angle?

please explain to me in your definition when you mean by "aggressive"? what you just told me doesnt make sense. On your 2nd sentence, ?????what???? immitates his style~!? NOONE IMMITATES OTHER DRIVERS STYLE, every driver has a different style and your saying thats why they won d1? omg your so right. what was i thinking? and last but not least, "what does clutch kicking have to do with angle?" ROFL im not even gonna bother, ill let someone handle this one. Have you ever drifted a car??? if i may ask?

[nasty nate 7]

and yes i too, miss haraguchi and the bn sports fc. noone i know or seen drive an fc like he does. totally amazing

[driftersil80]

And, its not only the fact that Ueo is a very aggresive driver. I bet if Ueo had a 400-500 hp S15, he wouldnt be so aggresive. Correct me if Im wrong, but with higher power cars, you can control drifts with the throttle alot more than with lower power cars. With lower power cars, you need to control the drifts through aggresive steering imputs. Im making this assumption off of the fact that when Ueo visited Hawaii and drove Revlimits Camaro, Revlimit said that Ueo had a very smooth style. Keep in mind, Revlimits Camaro has over 400hp.

This post was aimed mainly at you, NastyNate. Ueo is the best. He is better than Taniguchi, or Keiichi, or anyone for that matter.

[nasty nate 7]

i have not seen ueo drive any other car than an ae86 so i wouldnt know

[borodori]

Yup when Ueo came to Hawaii and drove my car it looked nothing like how he drives his Hachi. Actually I was first scared as hell that he was going to drive my car like that haha. Just imagining my clutch frying or my motor blowing up due to being revved to 10k.But yea he was actually super smooth and relaxed when he was in my car.

so how was the wheat bread?

[cfrost]

UEO! (my post wasn't at least 10 characters, now it is )

[Infini IV]

"Best" is what you yourself determine is from what you experience. Add to that, the fact that drifting is a JUDGED sport.

Therefore, a better question would have been "Who do YOU think is the best drifter?"

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no no no...im the best

[Doriftogasm]

please explain to me in your definition when you mean by "aggressive"? what you just told me doesnt make sense. On your 2nd sentence, ?????what???? immitates his style~!? NOONE IMMITATES OTHER DRIVERS STYLE, every driver has a different style and your saying thats why they won d1? omg your so right. what was i thinking? and last but not least, "what does clutch kicking have to do with angle?" ROFL im not even gonna bother, ill let someone handle this one. Have you ever drifted a car??? if i may ask?

about style, I'm referring to you saying that he LOOKS like he's panicking... That look of panicking is the result of Ueo driving so aggresively to keep up with the big boys...then you compare to NOB's smoothe style... maybe i'm missunderstading, are you saying smoothe like NOB is "better" then UEO'
s agressive style?... i dont know why i'm trying to explain, he's TRUELY amazing, thts all... seems like the other people understood just fine... and about clutch kicking, EVERYONE is good at clutch kicking, am i right?... what does clutch kicking alone have anything to do with ANGLE? Angle is based on all aspects, depending on what kind of situation you're in, you could surelyl get as much angle E-braking or any other gabajillion techniques there are out there. and dont bother asking who and who does not drift...

[driftersil80]

I completely agree^ Not to diss you Nate, but just use general logic before you discuss your topics. They dont judge D1 at all on an aggresive or smooth style (so, having an aggresive style doesnt make Ueo any worse of a drifter than Taniguchi). They judge on other things like line, speed, smoke, angle, etc. By the looks of things, the only thing NOB does significantly better than Ueo is more tire smoke and quicker acceleration. (AND REMEMBER!!!! usually more smoke and quicker acceleration= more powerful car, not more driver skill). Ueo gets significantly better angle than NOB, and can often get higher entry speeds as well. Anyways... what Im trying to say is: Taniguchi=High powered car and awesome skill using it and Ueo=Low powered car and equally awesome skill using it. Thusforth Ueo is the better driver.

[Infini IV]

Ueo gets significantly better angle than NOB, and can often get higher entry speeds as well. Anyways... what Im trying to say is: Taniguchi=High powered car and awesome skill using it and Ueo=Low powered car and equally awesome skill using it. Thusforth Ueo is the better driver.

First of all, Ueo is my favorite D1 driver.

At the level the D1 drivers are at, I'm sure the ones who place in the top 5 normally can hold the same angle given the same car... which means if you put Taniguchi in Ueo's car, I'm sure after a couple runs he could find a way to hold as much angle in Ueo's car as Ueo does.

The part about entry speeds: Given the same tires, how fast you can enter depends on many things as, well as weight of the car, and how wide the rear of your car has come out as you enter the turn (angle), etc.

And regarding your comment on high-powered car and low-powered car... That's quite an ignorant thing to say.. no?

[driftersil80]

First of all, Ueo is my favorite D1 driver.

At the level the D1 drivers are at, I'm sure the ones who place in the top 5 normally can hold the same angle given the same car... which means if you put Taniguchi in Ueo's car, I'm sure after a couple runs he could find a way to hold as much angle in Ueo's car as Ueo does.

The part about entry speeds: Given the same tires, how fast you can enter depends on many things as, well as weight of the car, and how wide the rear of your car has come out as you enter the turn (angle), etc.

And regarding your comment on high-powered car and low-powered car... That's quite an ignorant thing to say.. no?

Ok. You dont know if the thing about Taniguchi in Ueo's car is true. Ueo has spent many many years perfecting the tuning of and driving Hachi Rokus. He is a Hachi master, and I doubt that any of the top drivers would get as much speed and angle as he can. Maybe after a season of hard practice, but not right away.

My comment about a hi and lo powered car (if you are reffering to the better driver part), is not ignorant. It takes more skill to pilot a 200hp car to drifting victory than a 400-500 hp car. I think that can be established as a general fact. If you are reffering to the acceleration/tire smoke thing, its somewhat debatable. Though power-weight ratio effects accelaration a great deal, I dont think it effects cars enough at a D1 drift car level. I'll give you an example, at the Irwindale bank that the drivers drift on, the higher powered cars are almost always ahead of the lower powered cars, and they start their drifts much earlier. This is bacaused they take advantage of their higher acceleration, no? And about the tire smoke comment, normal 4AG hachis will never produce as much tire smoke as an S15. The drivers have better things to do with their power than produce giant clouds of smoke.

[Infini IV]

Ok. You dont know if the thing about Taniguchi in Ueo's car is true. Ueo has spent many many years perfecting the tuning of and driving Hachi Rokus. He is a Hachi master, and I doubt that any of the top drivers would get as much speed and angle as he can. Maybe after a season of hard practice, but not right away.

My comment about a hi and lo powered car (if you are reffering to the better driver part), is not ignorant. It takes more skill to pilot a 200hp car to drifting victory than a 400-500 hp car. I think that can be established as a general fact. If you are reffering to the acceleration/tire smoke thing, its somewhat debatable. Though power-weight ratio effects accelaration a great deal, I dont think it effects cars enough at a D1 drift car level. I'll give you an example, at the Irwindale bank that the drivers drift on, the higher powered cars are almost always ahead of the lower powered cars, and they start their drifts much earlier. This is bacaused they take advantage of their higher acceleration, no? And about the tire smoke comment, normal 4AG hachis will never produce as much tire smoke as an S15. The drivers have better things to do with their power than produce giant clouds of smoke.

That's true I'm speculating on whether or not Taniguchi can do the same, but it does make you wonder

Actually Irwindale is a great example... I'm not sure which bank you are talking about (the larger, outer one or the tighter, inner one), but on the tighter, inner bank (the main turn), higher-powered cars would enter before lower-powered cars, but lower-powered cars all either maintained a quicker speed through the turn, or came out faster (as was evidenced in the first US D1 when Ueo won). I thought your comment on high and low-powered cars to be slightly ignorant because both setups have their advantages/disadvantages on certain courses. If you've noticed, in the past two years, D1 is being held more on faster, longer courses as compared to the early years. Faster, longer course favor higher-powered cars, while slower, tighter courses favor lower-powered cars of equal balance.

Now, remember who the first official D1 champion was....?

[nasty nate 7]

about style, I'm referring to you saying that he LOOKS like he's panicking... That look of panicking is the result of Ueo driving so aggresively to keep up with the big boys...then you compare to NOB's smoothe style... maybe i'm missunderstading, are you saying smoothe like NOB is "better" then UEO'
s agressive style?... i dont know why i'm trying to explain, he's TRUELY amazing, thts all... seems like the other people understood just fine... and about clutch kicking, EVERYONE is good at clutch kicking, am i right?... what does clutch kicking alone have anything to do with ANGLE? Angle is based on all aspects, depending on what kind of situation you're in, you could surelyl get as much angle E-braking or any other gabajillion techniques there are out there. and dont bother asking who and who does not drift...

im saying NOB is better in every aspect in driving. not just drifting. forgive me for all the confusion. In my point of view, taniguchi is more consistent than ueo. dont get me wrong, ueo is very talented when it comes to drifting but if you look at all the past d1 results and driver stats. i can honestly say taniguchi is a better drifter. And for clutch kicking, not EVERYONE is good at clutch kicking, hell i know guys who cant even pull a donut. im saying clutch kickin is THE best way to initiate a drift and getting the craziest angle than any other known technique, sure E braking can get you same angle but with the sacrifice of speed. i also like to add it doesnt require much skill to pull this technique to break traction. The drift king himself told ueo to stop relying your techniques on just clutch kicking because thats all he does.