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  • #16
    Sorry if i seem patronizing, but do you even have any first hand experience driving, riding in, or working on any of the turbo Nissan engines? Why do you need 300hp? And why right AWAY? There is absolutely nothing wrong with upgrading over time. One of the reasons these engines are so great. The bottom line is: why not simply wait and collect you parts and just forget about the whole $3000 thing? I admire your perseverence and don't want to seem like a discouraging doubter, but the whole project has an underlying tone of fantasy. However, since your basic and overall goals ARE interesting, here are a few ideas i have:

    And what about clutch? if you think that old $900 RB20 clutch is going to be great for putting down 300hp, I advise you not to try. And you will need money for gauges to tune your engine. With injectors you will need at least an SAFC. And a boost controller, exhaust, etc.

    Yes, it is cool to do an RB swap. However, in yourcase it is not really very helpful for only 300hp. RB is something that requires alot more work to swap. More work equals more money. if you dont care about the money, drop the $3000 budget and be patient.

    Since we all agree that a turbo upgrade IS necessary for your targeted power, why not just get a good old CA18DET?
    They rev high as hell , have iron block like the RB, don't have rocker arms and are only minimally smaller in displacement. I know you like the RB thing, but a CA is much closer to you budget.
    Very good condition CA18DET $1800 plus shipping
    With a CA, you can bolt on an S15 turbo, which will get you pretty close to your goal. $900
    With a CA, you can save a good amount of $ and just drop in top feed Skyline 444cc injectors, which will get you to the level of power you want. eBay as low as $200
    A new Exedy CA clutch can be yours for $350
    custom FMIC can be hooked up for $600
    Walbro Fuel pump $150
    used SAFC $200
    MBC $100
    decent gauges $250
    home made K&N intake $60
    Downpipe $150
    Exhaust $500

    Total: $5260 WAIT! IT'S OVER THE LIMIT! Damn right! And it will run very well, and kick the *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* out of the jalopy RB20 thing that i doubt will come together for $3000. It's only a few grand over $3000, but it's thorough, reliable, and powerful. It includes all the basic essentials while still allowing space to grow.Just my $.02
    Last edited by hokiruu; 01-15-2004, 08:41 AM.

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    • #17
      Someone doesnt know much about their swaps. My RB20 swap was done for under 2K, easy swap, easier than the trendy SR swap and performs better, revvs higher and has a stronger bottom end. Parts aren;t as common obviously but they are becoming easy to find, and alot of places are carrying them.


      Originally posted by hokiruu
      Sorry if i seem patronizing, but do you even have any first hand experience driving, riding in, or working on any of the turbo Nissan engines? Why do you need 300hp? And why right AWAY? There is absolutely nothing wrong with upgrading over time. One of the reasons these engines are so great. The bottom line is: why not simply wait and collect you parts and just forget about the whole $3000 thing? I admire your perseverence and don't want to seem like a discouraging doubter, but the whole project has an underlying tone of fantasy. However, since your basic and overall goals ARE interesting, here are a few ideas i have:

      And what about clutch? if you think that old $900 RB20 clutch is going to be great for putting down 300hp, I advise you not to try. And you will need money for gauges to tune your engine. With injectors you will need at least an SAFC. And a boost controller, exhaust, etc.

      Yes, it is cool to do an RB swap. However, in yourcase it is not really very helpful for only 300hp. RB is something that requires alot more work to swap. More work equals more money. if you dont care about the money, drop the $3000 budget and be patient.

      Since we all agree that a turbo upgrade IS necessary for your targeted power, why not just get a good old CA18DET?
      They rev high as hell , have iron block like the RB, don't have rocker arms and are only minimally smaller in displacement. I know you like the RB thing, but a CA is much closer to you budget.
      Very good condition CA18DET $1800 plus shipping
      With a CA, you can bolt on an S15 turbo, which will get you pretty close to your goal. $900
      With a CA, you can save a good amount of $ and just drop in top feed Skyline 444cc injectors, which will get you to the level of power you want. eBay as low as $200
      A new Exedy CA clutch can be yours for $350
      custom FMIC can be hooked up for $600
      Walbro Fuel pump $150
      used SAFC $200
      MBC $100
      decent gauges $250
      home made K&N intake $60
      Downpipe $150
      Exhaust $500

      Total: $5260 WAIT! IT'S OVER THE LIMIT! Damn right! And it will run very well, and kick the *Censored**Censored**Censored**Censored* out of the jalopy RB20 thing that i doubt will come together for $3000. It's only a few grand over $3000, but it's thorough, reliable, and powerful. It includes all the basic essentials while still allowing space to grow.Just my $.02

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      • #18
        www.japandirect.com they seem to be pretty staight up and decent prices but i have yet to get anything from them good luck bro.

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        • #19
          eh...flashoption?...eh

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          • #20
            Nismo 241: Just because you did yours for under $2k doesn't mean he will. He's talking about cams and forgetting about injector upgrades, which doesn't give me the impression he has everything worked out to reach his goal. At least I was trying to give him some constructive advice, insetad of putting down thers who were trying to help him. So why dont you help him out yourself if you know so much insetad of dissing me?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by hokiruu
              Nismo 241: Just because you did yours for under $2k doesn't mean he will. He's talking about cams and forgetting about injector upgrades, which doesn't give me the impression he has everything worked out to reach his goal. At least I was trying to give him some constructive advice, insetad of putting down thers who were trying to help him. So why dont you help him out yourself if you know so much insetad of dissing me?
              Why don;t you shut your mouth unless you know facts, I have done a few RB swpas for UNDER 2k, so just because I know of about 5 guys that did it for under 2 means he wont? I've helped plenty, this thread is titled.....Opinion of flashoptions, I gave mine, I also gave mine about 2 other 'reputable companies. Fact is you are spreading false info, I can say you DO NOT KNOW what you are talking about. It's not more work to do the RB20 into an S13, in fact it's less work than an SR20 into an S13, so why is it that it would not be a good plan, thats a faster motor, easier swap, and less money, I don;t get it.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Nismo241
                Zerolift......sent a guy a motor with broken stuff on it, and a thread was started on 240sxforums about it, on there they conducted themselves in a manner of a 2 year old, they wouldn't take care of him the way they should have, they wanted him to pay for shipping charges and a restocking fee, when being their fault they should have fixed their mistake. I would not buy from them ever
                Just so the record is clear, we have met the needs of the one customer, sent the customer cash back as well as parts that were needed.

                on a side note, thanks for the link CHAS *thumbsup*

                Stay sideways!
                Zerolift Autolab Team

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ZeroliftAutoLab
                  Just so the record is clear, we have met the needs of the one customer, sent the customer cash back as well as parts that were needed.

                  on a side note, thanks for the link CHAS *thumbsup*

                  Stay sideways!
                  Zerolift Autolab Team
                  Glad to see you cleared things up

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Nismo241
                    Why don;t you shut your mouth unless you know facts, I have done a few RB swpas for UNDER 2k, so just because I know of about 5 guys that did it for under 2 means he wont? I've helped plenty, this thread is titled.....Opinion of flashoptions, I gave mine, I also gave mine about 2 other 'reputable companies. Fact is you are spreading false info, I can say you DO NOT KNOW what you are talking about. It's not more work to do the RB20 into an S13, in fact it's less work than an SR20 into an S13, so why is it that it would not be a good plan, thats a faster motor, easier swap, and less money, I don;t get it.
                    Oooh. Grow up and relax or fly down here and talk smack to my face if that's what you really want to do. But save it on the boards please. Since you are just making useless statements about what you know and have done, and are providing no useful info, I am gong to assume you are full of it. If you can drop your attitude long enough, maybe you can explain what I said that is spreading false info. That would be alot more constructive for everyone, and it might even be a good alternative over trash talking for feeding your starving little ego.

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                    • #25
                      Sorry I was gone for so long...but anywho, Im back. First off, this thread was about Flashoption.com, or any other option for a motor .com out there. It was my fault for bringing up my "project" I have going. And to shed some light, I got my RB20 for 1k, and it is in great shape. Once it was mine, I took off the valve cover, checker the head, manually turned the crank, checked the turbo (which was brand new BTW. Thanks previous owner!!!), and inspected the tranny. Its all good to go.

                      So thats $1000.

                      For the other 2g's, we'll have to wait and see. Right now Im debating on doing the swap mysef or having someone do it. Im using complex algorithms and math analysis to weigh my non-existent free time against my stubborness about not spending over 3 grand. Right now, free time is winning.

                      So, to all of you (especially Hokiruu), leave it alone. Its my car, my swap, my money. Let me do ehat I want.

                      On a side note, I found a car to swap the RB into, a 89 hatch with a blown KA for 700 bones. The int./ext. are in better shape than my car, and it will allow me to have a ride as the work is goin on. Plus I can sell my current 240 when Im done and turn a profit, which means free money while staying under 3 g's. Score.

                      And Nismo 241, what pointers do you have on the wap? Do you definately have to take your dash out? Thats what I am dreading. Well, its either that or labor charges.

                      And get this: my local shop was going to charge me $700 labor for the swap. Not too bad. Then I told them the RB was already out of the front clip, and I was plannin on pulling the KA out of the donor car before the swap, in order to cut costs, since it would be a good 10 hours of labor at least for them to pull the two motors themselves. New labor charge: $700.

                      Needless to say, those tools are getting none of my business or dollars.

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                      • #26
                        eh

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                        • #27
                          Flashoptions! - Are you daring US!

                          Dear Customers,
                          Due to our loyal customer contacting us - we decided to come and tell you - What is the main problem ?

                          Why put bad names on us ? we have tons of happy customers and a fraction of it - and you put a verdict on a very few which was screwed by the shipping company ? I think that's ridiculous.

                          I want to proof to everyone in this forum and for others - FUTURE reading it ,

                          I'm ready to do USD1350.00 shipped RB20DET - Stripped front clip complete with intercooler pipings , intercooler shipped to your nearest port via express shipping , insured 21-30 days

                          Who's up for grabs! only 1 ( Key word - DRIFTINg.COM OFFER!)

                          RB20DET ..

                          Anyone (but this person must open a topic keeping all the customer updated)

                          it's very important...

                          EH - EXCUSE ME! 9-10 of our clips are already crated so CAMERON got to see only 2 of it which are being prepared to be crateD soon then! -

                          We're already out of clips pictures for the rb25det - they are all packed and ready to be shipped anyway..


                          So to everyone out there!

                          SHUT UP!if you don't know the facts

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                          • #28
                            WOW, very professional and business oriented. I can see why all the knowledgable 240 enthusiasts stopped buying from you guys. HERE ARE YOUR FACTS!

                            Zilvia.net

                            Fresh Alloy

                            NICO (Nissan Infiniti Car Owners)

                            240sx forums

                            ...you decide for yourself.

                            ALso, Venus sucks a@@. Do youself a favor, and search on the major 240/Nissan sites I listed and buy from the reputable shops. I don't know about you, but 2000 dollars is a lot of money to be throwing away.

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                            • #29
                              Well i'm not saying ... to pay in full now
                              pay 40% of it - upon receivig with bill of lading showen =
                              full payment received - we release
                              before paying in full u can go to the port and have a view on the motors..


                              see it - only to 1 special customer - he'll tell the whole process on the forums

                              this way no arguements and the proof
                              it's more work to us but we're doing it

                              to proof all those morons saying so..


                              Common get real USD300 we charge for shipping last time from chiba-ken japan - to let's say port of charleston , USA

                              isn't that reasonable
                              to get port of long beach to charleston - USD372.00

                              now who's chepear ?

                              we send them in container along with 50 over customers..

                              it takes a long time to collect..
                              now u have options ECOOMY OR EXPRESS

                              express 21-30 days UD580 to all ports
                              express 45-65 days USD450 to all port

                              all insured shipping
                              time and duration ACCURATE 95%
                              or 20% refunds on total payouts

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                              • #30
                                The RB swap is not hard at all. You can get 380HP with injector,ecu,turbo. Makes a great drifter or dragger. The extra weight up front counters the understeer quite well. The clutch doesnt have to be a 900 dollar one....but it will be the only one you see offered. I have done alot of X referring of parts and carry alot of repair and upgrade parts for them. So the myth of you cant find parts has just gone out the window. I also sell motors and other products...working on more nissan OEM parts though for these motors. If you all would like just look up my posts and theres a pic of my car or go to www.northwestnissans.com Nismo241 is a good guy too, very helpful. If you dont want to spend big money on upgrading and have realistic power goals then the RB20 is a good buy...i have one in my sil 80 and love it.

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