KEN "Crash Kid" GUSHI Drifting a Ford Mustang In 2005???

[Sil180AE86DRFTR]

Who cares about professionally? Are Japanese touge drivers drifting "Professionally"? I certainly don't think so.

[swifty949]

Originally posted by Sil180AE86DRFTR
Who cares about professionally? Are Japanese touge drivers drifting "Professionally"? I certainly don't think so.

Thats not the point of this topic now is it? But to answer your question, they do.

[Sil180AE86DRFTR]

It's not the point of the topic, but it's the point of the conversation/arguement you've turned this topic into.

[DRIFTER-M]

Thats not the point of this topic now is it? But to answer your question, they do.

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Yes the point of the topic is not drifting/touge, that would be why this site isn't called DRIFTING.COM, oh wait a minute yes it is.
And by the way the D1 has been here for 3 years now I believe.

[swifty949]

Originally posted by DRIFTER-M
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Yes the point of the topic is not drifting/touge, that would be why this site isn't called DRIFTING.COM, oh wait a minute yes it is.
And by the way the D1 has been here for 3 years now I believe.

KEN GUSHI Drifting a Ford Mustang In 2005??? this is the topic smart guy.

D1 has not been here 3 years. The first US event was 2002.

As for swaying the topic, i believe it was Drifter M

[DRIFTER-M]

KEN GUSHI Drifting a Ford Mustang In 2005??

You huge ghetto duck butt do you see the word DRIFTING in that I sure do.
Anyway I am seriously stopping and I hope you do to I don't wanna do this stupid flamming war anymore. Later.

[Brian]

d1 in US for 3 years... i don't know about that. bahahah

let's see what i can remember of drifting here in socal.

video option ikaten USA event.
falken drift showoff
rs*r drift festival
more drift showoffs
d1 driver searches
d1 events


these are the events i went to. i don't know many that came before that.
maybe you want to say speedtrial stuff and very early club4ag stuff.
maybe it was the little thing that happened back in the day with ken nomura and keiichi and option i think it was. this was way before i got into "it", so i didn't make that one.

[DRIFTER-M]

ok D1 has been here for 2 years. close enough

[Brian]

drifting happens when a car slides.
ford made cars a LONG time ago.
ford invented drifting.
done and done.


point: who cares.

[OH240SE]

Originally posted by Brian
drifting happens when a car slides.
ford made cars a LONG time ago.
ford invented drifting.
done and done.


point: who cares.

WELL SAID

[my 1 88 u]

look since all of you are going off topic so I'm going to restate my opinions. I think car manufacturers getting into drifting especially this early in its development will hurt the sport dramatically. If Ken Gushi and Gushi auto choose to side with Ford, they will no longer be an underdog and in turn will loose my interest and support.

[AllMotorKing]

if manufacturers don't step up; then all the drivers stay poor; have to work day jobs to support their sport.

worse off what if there is no chance for drivers to advance in the sport. heaven forbid they go into another motorsport like stock car racing!

we all know this would be a non-issue if somebody like toyota or nissan signed them rather than ford.

i'm glad the US companies are stepping up. i hope this is a straight out challenge to Japanese companies to bring it!

[Octagon]

Originally posted by Sil180AE86DRFTR
I'm sorry, but EVERY single Silvia or 180 in D1 has been sponsored by Nismo.

Contingency sponsorship doesn't count.

That's like saying every single one of the cars in the NASCAR Weekly Racing Series presented by Dodge (in other words, the 1000's of cars nationwide that race at local short tracks with NASCAR sanctioning) is sponsored by Dodge.

There's no instance in D1 or Formula Drift where a Japanese manufacturer has stepped up to the plate and supplied a team with new cars and technical staff to race under their name. I'd settle for one instance in which one of the factory supported aftermarket brands lent full support and full backing to a team to develop an existing car into a winning drift machine.

Face facts. American companies want to compete in drifting, want to support and expand drifting, and are enthusiastic about drifting. That's a good thing.

Furthermore, it's because of NASCAR that the American companies WANT to drift. Here's the scoop. NASCAR is currently trying to put all of the cars in Nextel Cup and Busch Grand National on a common template. In other words, no matter if it's a Dodge Charger, Chevy Monte Carlo, or Ford Taurus (or Toyota Camry, for that matter) the cars will all use the exact same body. NASCAR also very strictly governs the engines, trying to keep as much parity between the engines as possible.

What all this adds up to is that Ford, Chevy, and Dodge all spend millions upon millions of dollars to compete with cars that have nothing to do with their road cars AND are no longer identifiable as their own. Furthermore, they aren't allowed within the NASCAR rules structure to have a distinct advantage over their competitors. So, basically, marketing a manufacturer in NASCAR earns you nothing.

Pontiac defected from NASCAR in 2003 because the return on investment was so poor for them and the GM brass felt that they were spending too much in NASCAR for what little they were getting out. The Pontiac teams converted to Chevy and GM began investing their Pontiac NASCAR money into a multitude of different motorsports and R&D efforts. The whole effort behind proving the GTO in road racing and drifting, as well as the Daytona Prototype engine program are all financed with ex-NASCAR money.

Ford and Dodge have both followed suit. Dodge has nixed support of lower level NASCAR teams in favor of capitalizing on their stronger Nextel Cup teams (Evernham, Penske, Ganassi) and Ford merged the engine programs of their two powerhouse teams (Roush and Robert Yates) so that Ford would no longer have to manage their engine development program. The money saved has gone into drift Vipers, into RWD Focuses, into SRT-4 rally cars, into Multimatic chassis Daytona Prototypes, into Panoz road cars, into Grand Am Cup Mazda RX-8's (remember the Ford/Mazda connection) and the list goes on and on.

Welcome to professional motorsports, boyos. Time to grow up and face the world of racing business.

[variant]

oversteer didn't exist until japan was invented.

www.thehistorychannel.com

[fbmx24]

Ok I know for a fact that the people that are talking crap on ford or dodge or wom ever are the same people that booed Rhys and the GTO at the D1 event at Irwindale. Then when the Drift king himself said he liked the car they started cheering for him.....WTF! All the other people on here that have said nobody would say anything if it was toyota or nissan sponsering a drift team are right. Also open your eyes becuase after this year Toyota wont even have a rear wheel drive car in their line up so thats all the more reason to support Ford or dodge! Lastly why does it even matter if the major car companies support drifters ? They arent sponsering you so its not your problem and doesnt affect you at all